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The hierarchy of controls tells us that we should physically remove the hazard (Eliminate Cars). But, we choose the least effective option, protection (Helmets and bright colors) (programming.dev)
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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Suppose for example, you’re an automobile manufacturer. Then the success of campaigns to eliminate automobiles is a risk to your business.

We should come up with a society where people's individual interests aren't bad for society. Somehow. Perhaps magic?

But yeah there's a lot of "but I need my orphan grinding machines to sell that's my whole business" and I don't have a lot of sympathy, because those machines are dangerous and bad. Like, just stop selling mega-suvs or single use plastic junk or whatever. I'd be happy for the state to pay them to do something else instead.

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago

[????] or barbarism

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

While potentially helpful, I don't think magic is required. We can do this with the tools and society available. Instead of focusing attention on places like Detroit MI, Windsor ON, or Houston TX which have a strong embedded interests, local advocacy in any and all areas without a strong embedded interest (literally anywhere else) could shift the economy away from "orphan crushing machines" without the input of these parties.

Then once the "rest of the world" has options beyond driving, these regions with embedded interests would have less to lose from embracing alternatives as well. I think about it like the US campaign in the Pacific in WWII: occupy the regions which the Japanese empire needs to run their war machine BEFORE engaging with the mainland.

The journey will be long and challenging with many set backs and failures, but by showing up everyday and fighting we can achieve victories.