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Australian judge rejects prisoner's human rights challenge to Vegemite ban (www.npr.org)

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[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fundamentally I believe that this is more to do with power tripping prison officers than the crime of the prisoner, as this ban is for all prisons in that province, affecting everyone from low level drug charges and financial crimes to this guy.

The prison claim it can be used to brew beer, which he rightly points out fresh fruit has more living yeast and sugar, which the prisoners already have available.

You're right, it's literally the equivalent of him asking for jam or butter. Neighboring district's prisons have Vegemite, or should all prisoners be given a thin gruel and be made to be thankful for that?

The bit that irks me is the fact that he went about requesting it in earnest and built a genuine case for what is the smallest of concessions and still was rejected.

If you don't allow people to see that their trying in earnest and trying to work within the system doesn't provide any results or even open dialogue, what reason do they have to try it in the future?

[–] CTDummy@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Multiple states here have the ban, not just Victoria because not only is it used to make pruno, it’s strong scent is used to hide it and distract sniffer dogs looking for drugs being brought into prison. This has been the case in state prisons for 20 years.

I get what you’re saying and I don’t disagree fundamentally. Seeing how prisoners get treated in the US, I get the instinct of siding with prisoners. Also, he had his case heard and I think he earnest effort was met with earnest consideration being that he was heard and allowed to make his case. The fact remains that 1. Spreads can hardly be considered a human rights issue, at least specific choice of and 2. Being in prison in general, let alone for murder, means inherent limitations as that’s sort of the point of being imprisoned.

Again, I agree that doesn’t mean “fuck ‘em treat them as poorly as you like” but lack of Vegemite is hardly a cruel and unusual punishment.