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Nearly 3 Billion Birds Gone (www.birds.cornell.edu)
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A new study finds steep, long-term losses across virtually all groups of birds in the U.S. and Canada

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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Avoid Pesticides

Look for organic food choices and cut out some of the 1 billion pounds of pesticides used in the U.S. each year.

Organic food isn't necessarily pesticide free, it just uses "organic" pesticides, which aren't necessarily any better.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More than 1 billion pounds of pesticides are applied in the United States each year. The continent’s most widely used insecticides, called neonicotinoids or “neonics,” are lethal to birds and to the insects that birds consume. Common weed killers used around homes, such as 2, 4-D and glyphosate (used in Roundup), can be toxic to wildlife, and glyphosate has been declared a probable human carcinogen

We are past beyond the point where we can make arguments based on "necessarily". We cannot keep applying the same method. Those bird did not vanish for no reason. At least we know organic pesticides better than the endless new synthetic pesticides that take years to analyze after they have done their damage to the environment.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Point went right over your head it seems. Toxins are toxins, regardless if they're organic or synthetic.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I expect much better from this sub than someone throwing more smokescreen at the problem.

The cigarette industry threw millions of dollars into slowing the research, into seeding doubt here and there, because each month of legal inaction from the government was one more full month of business for them. We know it, it's documented. Slowing the regulations is their business now.

The endgame of your "which aren't necessarily any better" is nothing else than pleading inaction because we are only sure at 99% and not 100%. So while you spend your time searching for this last percent I say we go organic.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You continue to ignore my point. I'm not defending synthetic pesticides. So stop the straw manning please, especially when I literally used the tobacco industry studies as an example in another comment chain yesterday.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We talk about 3 billions birds gone and all you can come up with is "toxins are toxins". A round of applause for the guy, please.

Smokescreen. Blur everything in the same smokescreen.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alright. Please just shove your bullshit bad faith arguments where they belong and keep sniffing the toxins to make even more sense. You don't care about nature, you only care about virtue signaling and greenwashing. Go outside and give those birds some "green pesticides" and see how that will turn out.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I see you ragevoting my other comments in other magazines. At least you are having fun with the downvote button.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I did what you did. Don't blame me for playing your stupid games.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@DarkThoughts You are mistaken. I don't downvote comments. Only out of context threads.

@xuxebiko relax. we still talked about the very content of the article.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Mate, I literally did it after I saw you following through my profile and downvoting me in other places. Stop the trolling.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@PabloDiscobar & @DarkThoughts : Please either add to the discussio or get off my thread.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tried blocking him but that apparently does not work.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please do not involve me. Y'all can either add to the discussion or get off my thread.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

You replied to me. lmao
You fucking trolls and I can't even get rid of you all. Already a clown show.

[–] Pegatron@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

We shouldn't be using organic pesticides either.