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It's really not. I've even taken an Uber/Lyft to the ER in an emergency before - with money I had beg friends for + a coupon. Then the absurdly high ER bills went to collections, because we didn't have the Medicaid expansion here and I'm disabled and couldn't pay them since I can't work, and now I have debt collectors hounding me all the time.
When I was a kid and my dad was real sick, my parents got sued for unpaid medical bills we couldn't afford when my dad nearly died and had to be revived and intubated and shit. They garnished my dad's already piddly wages (mom's disabled, or they would have garnished hers, too) and they had to declare bankruptcy.
This country is such a mess.
Remember this every time you consider being polite to a conservative instead of treating them the way they deserve.
I mean at this point they are supporting a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, probable pedophile and insurrectionist traitor that just joked about Iran destroying two of America's largest cities because they vote blue.
Conservatives should be treated like traitors, because they are. They have made it very clear they are America's enemy.
Yeah, fuck empathy and social cohesion, just emulate the worst behaviours of your perceived other. If someone needs a ride to the hospital I'm not going to check their damn voting records
If I don't know someones politics I'll help them without question. If they're wearing Trump merch then they can have the day they voted for. I don't give a fuck about social cohesion with those cunts anymore than they would with me.
Picturing you at a bus stop rolling your eyes as an 80 y/o in a maga hat strokes out, it's not pretty. What happened to being the change?
Allowing evil people to die so the world can be a better place is the change I want to see in this world.
Are you suggesting old people can't be evil?
At least some of them just come out and admit they want death. Your sophistry does not grant any moral high ground. What you are saying is that you more death, that those you judge must die. It is a direct reflection of the ideology you are trying to oppose. An equal and opposite reaction that only perpetuates a cycle.
Listen. I’m not going to help someone who wants me and my friends dead. And you can personally be offended by that all you want.
I don't care if you think I'm pretty. The change I want is every maga turd in this country in the ground. They abandoned the social contract, not me. You don't get to abide by it only when it benefits you.
No one is talking about whether or not you are pretty, that's a deflection from the obvious ugliness of watching someone die. The change you express a desire for here would be more clearly stated as mass death. We only control our own actions, I can only hope that those you would take in reality are kinder.
Sorry if that wasn't clear enough for you. There's no place in society for fascist, racist, sexist, bigots. You can't still be in the maga camp and not be those things. I hope every single one of them experiences the suffering they would gladly have inflicted on innocents and fuck you for advocating for tolerance. I'll be kind to the people who don't support genocidal pedophiles.
You're literally advocating to inflict suffering and telling me to fuck off for promoting not even "tolerance" but basic empathy and shared humanity. It doesn't feel particularly kind, and it's deeply frustrating to watch someone perpetuate exactly what's been inflicted on them. Suffering in no way eases suffering. Empathy does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance?wprov=sfla1
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/27791546
Cold linking the wiki article (with tracking intact no less) isn't much of a reply
Too much for you to read, huh?
Then you have a good life extending empathy to people who want you fucking dead for the way you think and live your life.
If you're still giving the benefit of the doubt to conservatives, you have learned NOTHING and deserve to be taken advantage of by the worst our society has to offer.
A dark future indeed. You're very comfortable passing judgment and telling me what I deserve. Again: who does that remind you of? What behavior are you emulating? How do you think it might shape the world?
Yeah, because they're fascist, racist, sexist, bigots. Their ideas of "shared humanity" don't include me. They're evil, end of story. They don't have to be this way, they chose it and have continued to double down as things have gotten worse. It's not just "different political beliefs" or being misguided anymore and hasn't been for a long time. They are evil and they're not going to change their ways. Fuck them and again fuck you for empathizing with them. Empathize with their victims if you want to empathize with someone so bad. Being kind to Nazis doesn't make you a good person.
You don't have to be this way either. I don't see empathy as a burden or gift to be given, I see it as a source of strength. It expands your sense of self and defines emotional strength. It heals the self, other, and whole. Kindness is a reward in and of itself. I hope there is enough in your life to share.
How exactly is rolling over for fascists a source of strength? If we do not stand up to these people and put them back in their place things are going to continue to get worse. Kindness won't change anything because they are fundamentally screwed up individuals, they see it as weakness and an opportunity to take more from you. That's all it is to them. There's no appreciation, or self reflection about how they should be better people. They like the way they are and think things are going great because the people they hate are being hurt and they don't have to hide what they are anymore. You're spouting off empty platitudes because you're either a hateful fuck yourself trying to pose as a moral bystander online or you're just fucking delusional.
I'm sharing my lived experience because I care. From here it seems like you're throwing judgments and accusations at me to justify your own hatred. I know it can feel like a source or strength, especially when you've felt its impact, but I promise you it's not. You're allowing the worst of us to drag you to their level, and joining in a self-destructive game they're much better at. I see what you're doing as letting "the nazis" win. Expanding your sense of the other, responding to it with violence, acting from fear rather than love, successfully atomized and volatile and raw for exploitation. I guarantee you and the guy with a maga hat on top of his klan hood have more in common than either of you do with any politician or billionaire, very much including the impact your behaviour has. Continuing to love and be vulnerable through suffering is in no way rolling over. Amplifying that suffering, picking it up as a weapon and inflicting what has been inflicted on you on another, is far more fundamental a capitulation than helping someone in need you don't feel "deserves" it. I hope one of my platitudes reach you, and can promise my whole heart is in them. Good luck out there.
No, I'm throwing judgements and accusations at you because they are accurate statements about the results of your beliefs.
I don't give a shit what we have in common. What we don't have in common is being a bigoted piece of shit and that's not a divide I'm willing to cross.
Capitulation to what? I'm talking about reality, not whatever made up bullshit you have going on in your head that you're using to argue that magas deserve the compassion they are actively doing everything in their power to take away from everyone else.
Arrogant confidence in dismissing one another as "piece of shit" is in this context unfortunately the most relevant part of your commonality. I was speaking of capitulation to hatred itself, of course. I'm not making up hatred, or the peace that I wish you. Please be well
Please, explain to me how fascist, racist, sexist, pedophile felon supporting bigots could possibly not be pieces of shit.
I don't think I can. I'm sorry.
Why should we treat them any better than they treat everyone else?
Because you can. If you can. Why would you want to treat them the way they treat everyone else?
Because I ain't Jesus. Fuck them. They've destroyed the country and a good bit of the world and they did so gleefully.
Not what the person you are responding to said. They just said "be polite to". And no, you shouldn't be polite to conservatives after what they've done.
I have no empathy for torturers and murderers.
Quick to judge, lacking empathy, who does that sound like to you? Really hope you can find enough peace to try being a good part of this greater whole again man.
"There's a bad man in everyone, no matter who we are. There's a rapist and a nazi living in our tiny hearts. Child pornographers and cannibals, and politicians too. There's someone in your head waiting to fucking strangle you."
Great song. Best of luck out there.
It sound like YOU have a Nazi living in your heart with how hard you are trying to defend them in this thread.
Think the point of the song is that we all do, and acknowledging and attempting to transcend that is crucial to being "good". It's being very clearly demonstrated here that with enough fear and enough hurt many otherwise normal people will resort to paying forward the bigotry and violence inflicted on them. Can you point to where I have in any way defended nazis, rather than advocating against the very behaviors that make their "movement" so reprehensible?
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Hurting Nazis isn't bigotry
No, there is no rapist or Nazi living in my heart.
Wow, that's great. Sounds like you're pretty dang pure, far removed from the flawed individuals you wish death on. A model human, some kind of 'ubermensch'
That’s not what I said at all. You seem very upset that people hate Nazis. Why is that?
I'm upset that people hate, period, and don't believe a reasonable person could actually see anything I've said as supporting fascism in any way. You're directly advocating for that same ideology with a different target, and insinuating I must be one of Them for having a problem with it.
Have you studied the Paradox of Tolerance?
Yeah, but not exclusively! Even there tolerance is framed as an ideal, and rationale as the primary defense against intolerance. It's also about how to handle movements in a society, not who to call help for. Have you ever studied the Wheel of Samsara?
Pffft! Yeah buddy, because whether or not you make it closer to Nirvana is definitely the only thing that matters here.
It's difficult to engage through your sarcasm, but assuming heaven is a place on earth and we only control our own actions yes. Living with compassion and and at least attempting to embody the changes I hope for is very important to me. It's hope for a better world and a genuine attempt to build it, the only meaningful counter to violence and despair.
I got in a Lyft with nearly bursting intestines and asked him to take me to the ER. He could see on my face that I was sweating and pale. He kept nervously asking me about it and I had to pretend to be OK so he wouldn’t kick me out of his car. “I’m good, just going to a doctor’s appointment. You see that show last night?”. I was desperately clutching my stomach and my shirt was drenched in sweat.
I like to think he understood.
I've driven myself to the hospital a few times to avoid paying for an ambulance. The only time I actually went to a hospital in an ambulance was when I couldn't stay conscious. I still didn't want to go, but I couldn't exactly argue.