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[–] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I grew up in NJ as a non-Catholic. Even I respect Pope Leo and Francis.

Granted, I moved to the Midwest and realized for all the quirks Catholics have, they're not as a monolith god awful people like Evangicals are.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Careful there are plenty of fucked up Catholic sects too, like the ones JD Vance and Amy Coney Barrett are in.

[–] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I hear what you're saying and I don't fully agree nor do I fully disagree...

Catholicism at it's core is pretty evil. See their rampant sex crimes through their leadership and their leadership's complacency.

But since Pope Francis, I believe they've made an attempt at growing their religion in an ethical(ish) way. That's to say, they've chosen leadership that is more liberal in an attempt to guide them into the modern world.

The structure of catholicism being pope down lead with regional leadership keeps parishes relatively in-line with one another.

I've witnessed first hand a lot of Catholics in rural, conservative towns being somewhat exiled due to their extreme MAGA beliefs. Particularly on LGBT issues. Catholicism in my opinion has held a line that separates them from Evangelists. In part because of the top down leadership - you're not finding priests living the high life like you are mom and pop Evangelist pastors. That's an organizational difference.

That doesn't mean you don't get evil shitbags like Just Dance Vance - but let's not pretend that Just Dance Vance is a Catholic beyond that he went through all the Catholic sacrements. He has a piece of paper he can point to to say that he's Christian. But he's more aligned with Evangelists.