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[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it is reasonable for there to be a requirement for a reasonable fee-free way to get that price (and even an electronic way).

But saying that a merchant's options are to not accept a payment method, or to accept it and pass the fees on to all consumers, is effectively playing into the hands of the big American card networks, and is not a pro-consumer action long term at all.

What happens then is:

  • Networks incentivise people to pay using their cards, e.g. by providing small kickbacks.
  • Networks start raising the rates on merchants. Merchants pass on the costs to consumers. Consumers who get the kickbacks get a cheaper effective price than cash-paying consumers, but more of the rates go to the network. So cash paying consumers are significantly worse off than if the fee could be passed on, card paying consumers are a bit worse off, and the networks are profiting from it.
  • Merchants can't stop offering the ability to pay by the network's card at this point without losing a lot of business.
  • Other networks cannot enter the market (and even get pushed out) by competing on price because then they can't offer the kickbacks. Consumers of the new cheaper method would still be cross-subsidising the fees of the other cards, while not getting the kickback.
  • Card networks gain power from this duopoly, and use that to decide what types of business are allowed and what is banned or censored, essentially setting the de facto laws of commerce with no democratic input.

This whole thing is one of the late stage capitalism anti-public dynamic that America has (alongside things like the American way of doing tipping) that we should be fighting tooth and nail against. The RBA and Labor should never have allowed this.

[–] Dimand@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"fee-free way to get that price"

What does this even mean? Money handling has been a cost in currency based society since forever. Long before credit cards, business baked their cash processing costs into their goods and services.

Also, read the article. They are 100% allowed to offer a discount for cash payments. Hell they are allowed to offer a discount for electronic payments and charge full rate for cash. Paying less than the sticker price has never been an issue.

No hidden taxes tips or fees. It's a core tenant of Australia, I should never pay more than the sticker price for an item or service.

Lastly, everything I have read indicates that the card rewards systems are suffering and getting worse as a result of this change. But I doubt they will ever die fully (unfortunately).

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

It’s a core tenant

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