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Some Samsung smart fridges stopped working on Tuesday due to a firmware update.

Korean outlets were the first to report the problems, which affect Samsung’s Bespoke AI line of fridges. Star News Korea, per a Google-provided translation, said that most of the affected devices were four-door fridges from 2024 or later.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's a fridge. It doesn't even need an 8 bit microcontroller from the 1970s.

[–] Bromeliadventures@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My washing machine keeps asking to be connected to the WiFi. 2 years I've been ignoring it, which has been very convenient. I think it just wants to watch porn.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So that's what it means when it asks for a full load...

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plus it keeps collecting socks. Pervert.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Your fault for putting socks and panties in the same load....

[–] GideonD@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I caught my mother's dehumidifier connecting to WiFi to watch porn. The damn thing was actually dripping wet.

[–] Bromeliadventures@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was it a dehumidifier by marriage? A step dehumidifier is quite the thing apparently.

[–] GideonD@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

GideonD

No, but it sits right next to a washing machine. I'm surprised it wasn't stuck inside with its bottom sticking out.

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

That's where they're disappearing to!

[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine if you could make it watch advertising for your earnings... But yes, it would need the softwares belong to you, rather than to the washing machine's maker...

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There are apps which basically do that.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It can use a 32 bit microcontroller, like mine does, but it only has some pretty basic functionality like setting temperature and shutting down the fans if door opened. Anything beyond that is just overengineering.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

it does, for massive user convenience. however, the more you add, the less convenience is gained from each addition, sort of like a law of diminishing returns-type thing.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What convenience? You open the door, a light goes on, it is cold or freezing cold inside depending on the door.

The end.

My parent's McClary fridge from the 1960s still runs on the original refrigerant.

Don't tell me about energy efficiency when

  1. We are awash in renewable electricity

  2. Building new fridges every five years filled with e-waste running garbage software requiring a networking infrastructure on top of it surely used a few joules as well.

  3. It's not in a landfill.

I can't wait for the global energy crash, maybe we'll be calmer and wiser when gas is 100$/liter.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

for one, beeping after you leave the door open for 30 seconds. considering the longevity of a fridge, adding a microcontroller that does that is more environmentally friendly.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think you don’t need microcontroller for that?

[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Microcontrollers are cheaper then analog clocks

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A NE555 runs out of sync very fast, so it is not that usable as a clock long term. If you want that you would need further components you don't need for a paduk MCU which is like 3 cents

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

A 555 can keep time for the 1 minute needed before a fridge beeps that it has been left open. It's not an alarm clock. It doesn't matter if it is off by a few seconds.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

Yes they are, but that wasn’t the point.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i think you do, for the counting and beeping.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No I don’t. I can use common door switch and a time relay for that, which triggers buzzer. It cost a lot more than microcontroller, but you can do it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A timer circuit is cheaper than a microcontroller.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

and why'd you do that when you can save money and get a microcontroller instead?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

More reliable and the poster is wrong, it is cheaper.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That wasn’t the point. You said it cannot be done without microcontroller and I told you it can be done.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

practically though, a microcontroller'd be better.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you missed the point again. Congratulations.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

nope... pretty sure they're related.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

beeping after you leave the door open for a few minutes, also electricity is over a quarter a kilowatt hour some places.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Y'all just leaving fridges open all day where you are? In my neck of the woods "Stop staring and pick something, you're letting all the cold out."

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

fridges don't always close properly

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well

A) Close it properly then. We have one of those at work, old worn out gaskets, fridge pops open when you close the top freezer, and somehow we can manage to figure out how to close it back up every time.

B) Replace your gaskets.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

a microcontroller, couple sensors, and a speaker are cheaper

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

A microcontroller is overkill. A 555 chip will do it.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

And yet you still need to replace your gaskets when they're failing, because the gaskets are also important to the function of the fridge.

Now, am I going to spend the $15 to get gaskets for my bosses fridge? No, that's his problem, but I can still "A) keep it closed."

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Might I inquire as to what the convenience would be?

[–] FjordDan@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Digital display for thermostat/thermometer is nice.

Party Mode is convenient when adding large amounts of beverages (or leftovers) as it temporarily changes the compressor setpoint/cycle for a couple of hours in expectation of heavy usage.

Night mode / vacation mode can similarly change the compressor working profile to be either more quiet or energy efficient at times when it's not expecting the door to open for extended periods of time.

None of these are essential features of a fridge, but they can be convenient.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

all that is regulated by a simple thermostat, since the 1960s.

more quiet or energy efficient at times when it’s not expecting the door to open for extended periods of time

This happens at night anyway, and the thermostat controlling the compressor only works when required. You think analog fridges just run constantly?

Consumers have a screen and fake tech fetish.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some things off the top of my head are:

  • you could set the temperature to a number of degrees via a numerical display, which would be much harder to implement without a microcontroller.
  • maybe you could have PID control over the compressor rather than bang-bang control, so the temperature would be more stable.
  • these days, a bimetallic strip costs more than a microcontroller and a chip thermometer, despite the chip being much more accurate.

All of this only requires a really dumb microcontroller, though, not one with networking. I don't see how that could be useful until your fridge could magically track what it contains so you could ask it if you needed to buy stuff while you were shopping. I don't think we have the technology for that yet.

[–] Zanacross@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think we probably do have the tech to track what's in the fridge but we'd need a camera and some kind of ai watching it always...

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Image recognition will be able to figure out the obvious items, and hopefully the expiration dates, too, but it's not going to be able to figure out that opaque containers are nearly empty or identify leftovers in tupperware. It's also probably going to be unable to identify when loose produce is past its best unless it's extremely rotten.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

beeping after the fridge hasn't been closed for a while, or controlling the temperature, or turn on the lights when the door is open.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah that can moatly be done without one. The beeping maybe not but the temp and lights can be done completely analog. Our old fridge literally had a push switch that turned off the light when closed (20yr old fridge)

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

My washer/dryer is "smart" and there's no convenience there at all, honestly. It argues with me, it sits and flashes suggestions freezing the entire interface, it decides to just not do things at times. It's hella annoying.