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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think we need more solutions like Kagi, but less expensive.

Since you're the customer, no ads are served to you, and the search results are in your best interest and can be fully customized.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since you’re the customer, no ads

I remember the streaming services making this claim when they first took off.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah. It's almost impossible to create a system grounded in ethics in a hyper-capitalist architecture. Misinformation is by its very nature more entertaining and easier to make, so the unavoidable market incentive is to eventually shift the revenue base away from a broad, but low capitalization user base toward the handful of high capitalization snake-oil mongers. It's a direct product of market concentration that's allowed a handful of talented liars to accumulate more wealth than the majority of the rest of humanity.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought Kagi was expensive until I used it for a year. Worth every penny.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm Canadian and their prices aren't adjusted per market, so it's pretty expensive for us. It's about the price of YouTube Premium for a base plan. (I'll go double check)

Edit: nope, YT Premium is a wild $27 CAD now, far from the $14 CAD for the cheapest unlimited search Kagi plan lol

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$5 a month is really not expensive, though. That's less than the price of a AAA game for a full year. Google is only free because they make their money selling user data. How cheap does a good search engine need to be?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not considering the 300 searches plan, I bust that basically instantly. The minimum plan I can use is the $10 USD, which is about $14 CAD.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's wild to me; I feel like I search a lot, and I only go over the 300 searches rarely. Those few times I do, it's painless to just start the cycle a few days early.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not who you replied to, but in the same boat as him. I burn through 300 in a week, let alone a month. In my kagi settings I can see I make around 1100 searches each month. That 300 limit is just not possible for me

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Interesting! I guess I must search a lot less than I feel like I do. I do some things like type in URLs rather than searching for a known URL, and going to Wikipedia directly and then searching there; maybe that stuff helps more than I'd think? Or maybe we just use the Internet differently, which is fine too.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

ah, yeah, I am not sure I have ever seen a website have decent search of its own so I use Kagi for basically every search lol. I just enter my query then add "site:site.com" to the end to limit it to results from that site

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You also probably don't use it for spell check when a random system doesn't have it built in. I mean, I totally don't do that.... 🤣

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Haha if I did I'd just go to wkitionary.com and search there or something

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean that would make more sense...

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More? I dunno, only if you're trying to minmax searches, which I apparently do. Just different. 😎

No I mean you're doing something that makes sense and I feel silly for not thinking of it lol