Asking about some stuff I've seen here before. Gonna start off by saying, to those that don't know what I'm talking about, don't even bother commenting in this thread. Last time this topic came up, a bunch of people on here showed their ass as being fatphobic. I didn't leave any comments in that thread, but if I had commented before reading that thread, my comments would have been sucked just like everybody else's.
A while ago, we had a struggle session over fat acceptance/fat health. Now I'm very open about how I've always found fat people very beautiful and there's never been any weirdness to that. But until that struggle session happened, I believed the common narrative that fat equals unhealthy. I actually know a lot of fat people in this mental spot, where they accept themselves aesthetically but still believe that their weight is inherently unhealthy. I haven't read this struggle session in so long, when my fat friends start being mean to themselves in this way, I don't remember the information well enough to be able to counter their cruelty to themselves and I really wanna fix that. I'm the friend that will use science to shut down my friend's self hatred. Whether it's explaining neurodivergence, drug addiction, or the queer experience, I try to make objective and undeniable observations that create contradictions in their self-hate thought paths they have to deal with somehow. I may make a few suggestions for thought paths, but ultimately I just give information and let people make their own decisions. This is my path to helping my friends liberate themselves from western brain worms, it works quite well.
Well, a while ago someone here made a comment in that struggle session that tore apart the idea that being fat is inherently unhealthy. It pretty much argued that everybody's ideal weight is different, some people are at their healthiest when they're fat and some when they're skinny, but it's individual to every given person. And this was backed up by a shit ton of pubmed links, it was very much not vibe based. Anybody that read that comment and didn't change their minds on fat being inherently unhealthy is probably a shitty person I didn't want on the site anyways.
My girlfriend is 6'3 and on the heavier side. She actually lives a pretty healthy life, definitely the healthiest person I've dated. If she wants to lose weight, I'll support her in it, but I don't realistically know what she could change in her lifestyle that would be good health wise and cause her to lose weight. She already does portion control, doesn't eat junk food, does cardio and such. Like logically speaking, based off of what I know about her lifestyle and body, losing weight sounds like it'd be unhealthy. Like she's already light headed and spacey often from doing too much portion control (not eating enough, not drinking sports drinks during our 120f heat wave because "sugar and sodium" like gurl it's literally fucking 120f outside, you need those things) I don't really think eating less and then sweating/exercising more is going to be good for her.
I do cardio with her because I know the exercise is healthy, but I think she's starting to push calorie counting territory on food. Kinda wanna help her start viewing her health past numbers on the scale or BMI index
Interestingly, it looks like GLP-1 meds can help with smoking cessation without the associated weight gain. It's genuinely crazy what these things can do.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12959817/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13417961/
I do love GLP-1s, they are miracle drugs. I'm really glad they exist. I view it kinda like drug addiction, because shitty unhealthy food can be mentally addictive. If there was a drug that completely cured addiction, I would support it, there's no reason I wouldn't support GLP-1s. All the people on here that say GLP-1s are "cheating" are reactionary assholes.
However, this is the same girlfriend who refuses to take ibuprofen or basic OTCs for anything. And she's already not really eating enough for her body and the activities she does, that's my main concern. Like I live somewhere that it got up to 120 degrees a few weeks ago. She was starting to get seriously sick from the heat and was coming close to collapsing and wouldn't take any of my Powerade because "sugar".
Like I said, I wouldn't question her wanting to lose more weight if it weren't for me seeing how well her current lifestyle is working. She's almost fainted from the heat, especially when she's performing with her band. And she's already eating healthy food and reasonable portions of it. Her diet is mostly salads, chicken, and rice. As far as portion goes, if she ever takes me out to eat, she always gets the half size of whatever she gets. If there's no option for her to get a half portion, we're splitting it. She's also a very active person, between her band and being in the service industry. We probably walk about 3 miles minimum every time we're with each other, and we see each other multiple times a week
That's kinda what I'm getting at. Like I see what she does already, how she eats and exercises and all her other lifestyle choices. She's gained 5 pounds over the course of the year we've been together, and I really think that's all titty weight from the HRT. The post I'm looking for has a bunch of articles going into more modern health science and describing better metrics to track health than weight. Like I said, if she loses weight as a side effect to other stuff she does, that's not a big deal. However, I don't think it's the thing she should be targeting due to where she's at in life
They reduce alcohol cravings, too. Something to bear in mind if you happen to start semaglutide a week after stocking the liquor cabinet.
bloody miracle drug
Beyond the weight loss, tirzepatide helped my sciatica a lot. There's a good anti inflammatory effect from it. The Chinese sourced stuff is so cheap, too. One of the better decisions I've ever made.
It comes as a powder, right? I have some laying around that I got almost a year ago that I haven't touched since I'm scared lol. I got the right water and some diabetes needles, is that what you're doing?
Yeah, it comes lypophilized (sp?) in vials that have to be reconstituted using bacteriostatic water (preferably the stuff Pfizer makes). In that state you can store it in your freezer for a very very long time and it will remain stable.