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Lemmy users in socialism.ml actually define Putin as progressive (I wish I was joking)
EDIT: look at them all brigading me below. PUTIN SUCKS and North Korea is an authoritarian shithole!
Can you post a screenshot of this? It sounds believable, but I'd rather have concrete evidence.
Where? I would love to see one case of this happening.
I would show you, but mods deleted all my comments! Just criticize Putin, Stalin or Kim Jogn Un in the socialism.ml or memes.ml instance and you'll instantly have -10 downvotes and probably a ban
That doesn't make sense. We're not looking for your comments.
He said he would like to see one case of this happening... a comment would demonstrate that
No, he said he would like to see an example of an .ml user calling Putin progressive. Are you drunk?
Could we please not resort to ad hominem attacks and insults, "Nonconfrontational"? This isn't Reddit.
Logically, I don't follow where that was specifically asked, but here's a comment calling Putin's Russia progressive: https://lemmy.ml/comment/27815508
Thats not what an ad hominem is you dolt. This is also not an ad hominem. I swear to god you pseudo-intellectual wannabe smartbois are the worst thing to come out of reddit. You pick up something through cultural osmosis and then your half-baked brain slings it out whenever you feel threatened, fearful you might actually have to think for a moment, yet you never look into what the concept actually is. <- also not an ad hominem, just an insult.
If you're going to run your mouth, make sure to do basic research beforehand. <- also not an ad hominem, more of a plea.
And the comment you quoted doesnt call Putin or "Putins Russia" a progressive. It argues that the nation plays a progressive role in geopolitics today, due to it functioning as an opponent to the USA. Jesus Christ, learn basic reading comprehension.
"Be careful, the pie is hot"
"Dude are you sexually attracted to a pie?? Lol wtf"
So that's actually calling Russia a reactionary nationalist state playing a progressive role in the context of a war between the imperial global hegemony, lol.
Do you have any examples of someone calling Putin progressive or not?
As you acknowledge, it quite clearly states Putin's Russia plays a "progressive role."
I'd like you to apologize to me for calling me "drunk." It was ad hominem and has no place in discourse.
Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia bombed children's hospitals and bankrolled Trump Jr's wedding. If you and I are against imperialism, we should be against all of these things.
Putin's Russia playing progressive role
=/=
Putin is progressive
Progressive is an adjective in this context. Your characterization is misleading and incorrect.
OP clearly supports Putin's Russia as a perceived bullwark against NATO.
I didn't catch your apology for the ad hominem. Kindly reply herewith
Since the other replies have tried to educate you more gently, or more amusingly, let me just spell it out for you:
Pointing out that you're an idiot in the course of also attacking your argument (even doing so rudely) isn't "as hominem".
Ad hominem is when you don't engage with the argument at all, you dismiss it based on the person making it. It doesn't even have to be rude or insulting. Dennis Leary's old joke about not believing a Priest teaching sex ed at a Catholic school is an ad hominem.
"I won't engage with your argument because you're a Tankie and therefore self evidently wrong" is an ad hominem
"You're a fucking idiot whose wrong and here's all the reasons why you're wrong, you fucking idiot" is not an ad hominem, it's just being rude while actually addressing the argument made.
I hope this helps. I doubt it will.
I'm the misleading one? Lmao
Show me an example of anyone saying Putin is progressive, and we can talk about an apology.
An insult is not an ad hominem you dumbass. And saying something plays a progressive role is not the same as saying someone is progressive, learn basic language.
lmao pointing out that the US has more people imprisoned than the USSR is not a mossad psyop
I am glad that people like you get banned
Its awesome how these people can just make up bullshit and never get punished on their instance.
I suppose thats a universal issue, but its still egregious.
literally every time someone is like 'woe is me the tankies got me, all i did was speak truth to power' i look at the modlog and it's them insulting people or being a reactionary
The only insult is your support of Putin and Stalin.
oh yeah i almost forgot, making up wild accusations is another thing i see in the modlogs
So we're in agreement that one should not be banned for expressing a negative opinion of the USSR?
there's plenty of criticism of the USSR, Stalin, Putin in these spaces.
people who are lazily ragebaiting and accusing people of being mossad for criticism of the US prison-industrial complex do get banned though
Criticism of the USSR, Stalin, and Putin is deleted in ml instances. My deletion history proves it.
The representation was inaccurate, as 80% of the 1996 US figure quoted were on probation, not incarcerated.
It's not lazy ragebaiting to verify facts, is it?
And since you're such an expert, which Lemmy user in particular, was insulted? Why is the mere assertion that one works on behalf of an intelligence service considered an insult by a disinterested observer?
Your deletion history proves that calling people "mossad psyops" while angrily flailing like a toddler gets you banned. The very same thread has plenty of others (attempting to) critique the Soviet Union without being banned.
This is like saying I got banned for arguing against racism on whatever instance that fucked up phrenology thread was at, while I in actuality got banned for being kind of rude.
... you realize parole is still part of the carceral state right
Oh wow it's that guy lmao.
Probation is distinct from parole in the US legal system. Shall I provide you with a source to clarify the difference?
typo on my part, the point is the same. both are still parts of the carceral state.
that the US has got better at managing more people through its carceral system with less visible imprisonment is not the flex that you think it is
Criticism of the US prison system is warranted but we must ensure that it is accurate, no?
It's strange to me that you think I'm flexing. Aren't we essentially arguing the same thing: that all humans have the right to live in decency?
It is accurate, you just struggle to actually read what is written.
I've been banned for stating North Korea is an authoritarian shithole. Is that bullshit, in your opinion?
Considering what shows up in the modlog about you, and how you presented the same situation, I'm quite certain you werent just some uwu smol bean who merely said a country was authoritarian. You might have more succes talking about how unreasonable moderation is on specific instances, if you actually tell the truth about what happened.
That was not the comment I was banned for, and you know it.
80% of that figure weren't imprisoned, they were on probation! Clearly misinformation when you look at the facts... that upsets Stalinists.
Have a sense of humor!
You got banned for repeatedly calling things you disagreed with a "mossad psyop" while completely failing to engage with any argument presented to you. You did not get banned for a specific comment, but for you behavior throughout the thread.
Well, to be fair, they’re a bunch of idiots. So… no need to take them any more serious than you would MAGA.
I love how you can just make shit up and libs eat it like slop, as long as its about someone they're preconditioned to hate.
It really weakens your position too. Because people who aren't familiar with the issue will see one side blatantly strawmanning and when they see the other side not mentioning that at all, they'll just awesome the first side is full of shit. Even if their positions are corrects.
I find that .ml can sometimes be questionable, but yeah that sounds like a claim that needs evidence.
If they ever source their claims they always either point towards
Yeah, if its common there should be plenty of highly upvoted comments like that, and not just a meme/shitpost either.