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Matrix Metadata Problem: the server sees everything except your messages

People pick Matrix because of end-to-end encryption. But E2EE only protects message content — everything around it is plaintext.

The server sees:

  • Your ID, IP, client type and version, device you use
  • Your presence, typing status, read receipts
  • Which rooms you join and when you join/leave
  • Who else is in those rooms → your entire social graph
  • Room names, topics, avatars (all plaintext state)
  • For every message: who sent it, which room, a millisecond timestamp, type, size

And federation copies all of that to every other server whose users are in the room. Your "social footprint" isn't one copy — it's as many as there are servers.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The server sees:

  • Your ID, IP, client type and version, device you use

the server does not see the device you use. the other 3 are also seen by signal servers.

And federation copies all of that to every other server whose users are in the room. Your "social footprint" isn't one copy — it's as many as there are servers.

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[–] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

the server does not see the device you use

Could be referring to the device name (usually just the client software name and OS) that is sent by clients to help the user identify which session is running where, like on the screen where you can force logout of other sessions you have open.

https://spec.matrix.org/latest/#devices