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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This isn't true, it's never been true, and it's just homophobia. source

TL;DW: down detector is based on user reports, all of the articles that report on this bullshit rely on down detector for "proof". It's just people trolling and we've been falling for it for years.

As you can see from grindr's official status page there have been no outages yesterday (the start of the RNC) or today

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not homophobia to call out hypocrisy.

There have been plenty of cases where pols voted for anti-LGBTQ+ laws, and then been abrubtly outed.

In June 2007, Larry Craig, a Republican U.S. Senator from Idaho, was arrested at the Minneapolis–St. Paul International Airport on suspicion of lewd conduct during an undercover police sting in a men’s restroom

.According to the officer’s report, Craig entered a stall adjacent to the undercover officer, tapped his foot several times, moved it so it touched the officer’s foot, and waved his hand under the stall divider — actions the officer interpreted as a coded invitation for sexual activity

Larry gained fame when he blamed the incident on his 'wide stance.'

From Wikipedia.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Yes, the prominent association between 'Republican" and "closeted gay man," is homophobic. No, there does not have to be 0% gay Republicans for it to not be homophobic. You are not pointing out "hypocrisy," you are reasserting that it is in fact gay people always hurting themselves and hiding amongst us (not even to mention the literal pedophilia and child sexual violence that this admin is obviously participatory in and the association between "stranger danger" and gay men).

Even beyond that, to focus on the "hypocrisy" of gay Republicans for being gay and that being the problem obscures the racialized and class dynamics behind queer political representation, and queer history. These institutions unsurprisingly privilege property-owning, white people who have always been more insulated from the consequences of homophobia. It is not even remotely new or republican for wealthy gay men to be conservative or exhibit zero solidarity with the queer community because, guess what, they understand that they benefit from the subordination of those groups (and make no mistake, Dems who do vote for "pro-LGBT" laws are by no means doing so in solidarity with queer people; we are subjects of another genocidal wave in the US for a reason).

Even beyond that, no, making jokes about how Donald Trump is a bad guy because he sucks Putin's cock or whatever is not pointing out "hypocrisy," it's just calling someone gay because it is synonymous with "weak," or "submissive." If the joke is indistinguishable from "real" homophobic jokes, then that's just what it is. Liberals have had a hayday getting to express their bigotry with perceived righteousness now that they finally have a "deserving" group of people to channel it through.

It's the same shit with the rampant ableism, fatphobia, queerphobia, and ageism that have become commonplace in liberal discourses that emphasize the "hypocrisy" of these people. What vulnerable group do I get to make fun of instead of you for how hypocritical you are?

Edit: anyone else notice Lemmy getting markedly more conservative over the past few months?

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] orioler25@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

Nice internalized queerphobia bud. Super cool how you used that redditor-ass meme to say you don't read about how your community is subject to genocide. So like, you're different from these guys?

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lemmy ain't getting more conservative. You're just being a dick. Stop playing a victim to cover for the right wing hypocrisies.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Stop playing hero to cover for liberal bigots.

[–] CarrierLost@infosec.pub -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re so wildly off the mark here that it’s reading as satirical.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ok, so a closeted republican was caught cruising in 2007. What does that have to do with the (demonstrably false) claim that "republican events cause grindr outages"? And how does your single example from nearly 20 years ago prove that the claims about grindr aren't false and homophobic?

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] cokeslutgarbage@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another good one is gayhomophobe.com, but it seems to be inactive for the last five years. In its heyday it was a genuinely good resource for political hypocrisy tracking.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

The sad fact is that there's nothing you can show them that will change their minds.

Donald Trump had 25 years to tell his story about being rescued by firemen. Suddenly he remembers it and none of his people call him on it.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Official status pages hardly tell the true story. They get tied to performance, so they become political to actually update with the real truth.

If you want to see a real example of this, look at the GitHub official status page versus the unofficial ones.

I’m not saying that downdetector is 100% perfect either

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

You're trying to get us have the gindr status page in our history aren't you? 🤣

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Homosexual here: we’re okay with it except for Kate.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm bisexual and agender, I have legitimate reasons to not be ok with it. What now? You also don't speak for the entirety of the LGBTQ+ community, and there's plenty of us (myself included) that think this isn't ok

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Genuine question: what part isn’t okay? That gay republicans exist? That Grindr crashes where they congregate? That people like me refuse to feel shame over something they have decided is a problem? What?

I feel if they decided that’s shameful, they can experience that shame. I’m not going to be embarrassed over their Victorian bullshit.

Sometimes you have to rub their nose in it. If it’s easier to oppress the gays, guess what they are going to do? Fuck that.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m lgbt and you do not speak for me, nor anyone else.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fine. Corrected post.

I’m totally fine being called a faggot. Republicans are scared of the label and there are plenty of them. So if they decided it’s shameful, then they get to feel shame.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We shouldn't engage in this, to be sure. But it does serve as good propaganda for homophobes(I think), if we're to find a silver lining.

If suddenly their political identity is associated with "self-hating gay person", and they desperately do not want to be perceived that way, they have to distance themselves from that political identity somewhat or defend themselves which will invariably look desperate and keep the story going.

Similarly, if they know they aren't using Grindr at these conventions, but they believe there is massive Grindr traffic, then they have to assume tons of people around them are using Grindr - which breeds distrust and ties back into point 1 a bit.

We still shouldn't do this - if and when this is widely known to be false, it'll make the liberals/leftists who traffic in this misinfo, and by extension their views, less trustworthy. I just think that, if you look at it myopically, it's a good op.