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Ukraine is losing the war (spectator.com)

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[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So how credible is spectator?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's a stablished, economically liberal, conservative newspaper from the UK. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, but this is a criterion of embarassment situation, as they have been Ukraine supporters in the war and have been historically a supporter of the US and NATO.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

And that's precisely what makes their admissions so valuable since there is zero chance of them having any sort of a pro-Russian bias.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

"It's a stablished, economically liberal, conservative newspaper from the UK"

It's a far right illiberal shitrag that was one of the leading outlets that attacked & bullied professor Jason Arday and has an array of journalists such as Rod Liddle (recently dead, yay!), who himself wrote:

"I never found out [what sort of teacher I’d be] because the one thing stopping me from being a teacher was that I could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids. It seemed to me to be virtually impossible not to, and I was convinced that I’d be right in there, on day one."

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

the experts -- both american and russian -- are saying that there's going to to be another vietnam war moment when liberals are made aware that ukraine is imminently about to lose like there was when saigon fell; but i strongly suspect that your response is going to be MUCH more common -- questioning the validity of the source instead -- if anything at all.

ironically, it is the right move to question it, but i suspect that it won't do much considering that basic facts like the united states congress voting to ban weapons shipments to ukraine for its neo-nazi proclivities are hidden in plain sight.

without seeing videos of helicopters evacuating cia & military assets out of kiev on prime time news like they did with the fall of siagon -- ukraine's loss will likewise be hidden in plain sight.