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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You really just replied to my comment saying that is insufficient, under an article saying that is insufficient, with 'that is sufficient'?

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Um... What does blocking all internet access not prevent here? By isolated VLAN I mean isolated. I.e. fully blocked from internet access LAN local replies only. 0 WAN access.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

if a device manufacturer is so hell bent on their devices phoning home that they'll connect to an insecure wifi or a wifi network run by a 'partner' provider.. they're gonna be doing that whenever it can't phone home via a configured network connection, too, and not just when there isn't one set up.

[–] AD_James@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Gamers nexus talks about your exact point at this Timestamp. And he agrees with you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA&t=635 He says something like, “A common misconception is taking your TV off your network is enough to stop them from spying.”

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

i just thought up a nightmare scenario and now i want to beat the shit out of my printer more than i usually do

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah I mean you're both right.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It doesn't prevent exactly what my comment said it doesn't prevent 'an adversarial entity physically residing within the space'. If I showed up with a pi bristling with antennas, loaded with an unknown, encrypted payload, and plopped it into your living room, would you just hook it into a vlan and be like "there, now I'm safe"?

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Totally different context, although less and less that's the case. I.e. it used to be enough but yeah. I guess not any more.