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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/70552672

But 44% of the vote for a party that is officially classified as “extreme right” is not normal. It is a black day for European democracy, even if it occurs in a small east German state.

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While Saxony-Anhalt (and Germany itself) may have dodged the worst outcome because the AfD won’t automatically fulfil its ambition of forming the first far-right state government in Germany since the Nazi era, there is no reason to assume it will be so lucky at the next election. Neither will other German states, such as Mecklenburg-Vorpommern in two weeks’ time, or other countries, such as France next year. No country is immune from the far right and, perhaps even more worryingly, no far-right party or politician is too extreme for political success (as the US has shown). We must therefore update our analyses and strategies.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 44 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Billionaire money at work. Tax their wealth, then they can't buy up propaganda machines to influence the population. Wherever you are, vote for a #WealthTax or #TaxWealthNotWork . If you don't, they will only keep amassing wealth and power that leads to results like these.

[–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

What I'm really struggling to understand is the logic behind voting for such parties. The existing parties have fucked you over due to lobbying from billionaires. What's the solution? Vote for the most billionaire friendly party there is

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago

Morons can easily be convinced that their lives are at risk for racist and xenofobic reasons.

This is why we can't let the "moderate" right ruin education, it leads to shit like this.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Abandon logic. Think emotion. You will not succeed when viewing politics through the lens of logic and reason. Voters no longer trust polished candidates with well-reasoned and detailed policy proposals. It's so easy to write that crap with corporate consultants and then ignore it as soon as the polician wins.

Aside from the proud and overt racists, people don't vote for right wing parties based on policy analysis. Maybe only 5% of the voters actually vote this way. You probably don't vote this way. Very few voters ignore party and select candidates based on a detail analysis of their policy proposals. Most vote based on either party affiliation or vibes/emotion.

Voting for right wing populist parties is an act of rage, the political equivalent of flipping the table over. Voters have come to resent the empty promises of neoliberals, and at this point they deliberately vote for whichever crazy candidate will piss off the respectable upper crust of society the most.

Stop analyzing politics through logic, reason, and who has the objectively best policies. In the current environment, policies are seen as worthless. What matters are vibes and emotions.

When you tell someone voting for a right wing populist, "but this guy supports policies that will hurt you!" They think, "I've voted for the logical and right choice my entire life. I've voted based on policies again and again. I've been betrayed again and again. At this point I'm just going to vote for whoever seems to most anger the media, the corporate owned, intellectuals, and all other social elites."

This is also why there was a lot of overlap between Trump and Mamdani voters. A fair number of voters will at this point just vote for anyone who seems to most anger the corporate media.

[–] Loui@feddit.org -1 points 10 hours ago

Question is if the outrage is organic or bred and nurtured by online sources. Like Russia, China and others. Most people in Germany have it better than ever before. Especially in the eastern states.

They'll tell you Germany is failing and everything is going to shit but it never actually comes from their personal lives but from hearsay and their gut feeling.

[–] 0tan0d@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As an American I can say the logic is simple. I vote for dem last time nothing change. I vote for GOP this time. Its dumb but thats the logic.

[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 2 points 11 hours ago

Something's changed I guess ^^

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

What’s the solution? Vote for the most billionaire friendly party there is

That'd actually be the FDP. Who did lose more than half its voters this time.

[–] glasratz@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The FDP was the economy and business first party. The AfD is a party for the extremely rich. That's a difference.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

In what way are the AfD's policies more advantageous for the extremely rich than the FDP's?

[–] glasratz@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago

It's the other way around. As I said, the FDP was more for giving capitalists in general an advantage, therefore they were often called the dentists' party. The AfD on the other hand doesn't give a fuck about keeping the economy afloat as long as some selected oligrachs can still make a profit out of it. An example is the complete privatization of the medical system.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Policy has nothing to do with politics in the historical era you live in. Accept this if you want to understand your world.