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Austria, Denmark, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Romania, Spain and Sweden are pushing to explore the idea of moving from unanimity to qualified majority in foreign policy.

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[–] Klear@piefed.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The UN is a diplomatic platform, not a global government. The idea is that if the particular countries couldn't veto, they'd leave the organisation altogether instead. Having everyone take part in the same diplomatic organisation is the main goal, not producing actionable resolutions.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

So what is the point of it then? Small country roes something terrible, they get condemned. US murders people without any oversight.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The point is to have a dialogue and to allow the largest influences to shape the dialogue. It's not meant to have any power beyond diplomatic conversation. The most hostile countries to the US still get in a plane and fly to New York to participate. Think about that.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because getting small countries to stop helps reduce war deaths.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Who gets the big countries to stop killing the small countries?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If nothing else works, other big countries. However, it is generally a high bar to get two big countries to go to war with each other.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have a deeply flawed understanding of who is leading the world in amount of war deaths and why.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 weeks ago

Feel free to correct me, but you're the one who asked the question. Just insulting isn't a good rhetorical device.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No one. That's supposed to be NATO's job.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

No? NATO is there to prevent revolutionary backlash against imperialist countries.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that's what they want you to believe

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I never said they were good at it, I said that was their job.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

No, it's supposed to be a defensive alliance by definition (cough - Libya - cough). Not world police.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

To allow the big countries a place of communication to prevent wider conflict.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

I think once the US and EU realize that the "Unipolar moment" is fucking over we'll get a lot more use out of the UN.