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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I was just thinking. This exact realization is a significant plot point in the book

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hooray, more stuff to read!

[–] keefshape@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I am re-reading this currently! Love KSR, but wow eerily apt with MftF.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The terrorists in that book are ethical and fair. In reality the types that would actually engage in that behavior would consider collateral damage as part of the “de growth”.

[–] keefshape@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The terrorists in the book are ethical and fair, because B is Mother. Without his black-ops hand guiding those kinds of things, they allude it would be a lot worse than drone swarms and pebble missiles. Transforming blind rageful terrorism into relatively guided eco-sabotage and brinksmanship that pushes through carboncoins and wealth caps.

I also noted this time around, that Franks talk with the Kali takes place before Mary and B chat about blackbooks stuff. So B was already doing the needful, for a long while.