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The relevant section is blunt. "The Software is licensed to you, not sold," the EULA states. "You are granted a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable, and personal license to play or use the Software for your private, non-commercial use on the system or device it was intended for."

The terms also restrict renting, modifying, or obtaining games through unauthorised means. Nothing in there is new, technically. Sony's EULA has always said this. The timing is what makes it land differently right now.

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[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -3 points 20 hours ago (3 children)
[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s definitely stealing. I don’t understand why people on here can’t admit it to themselves.

My guess is people here think that stealing is wrong, no matter what. They also think that piracy is moral. Because of that, they incorrectly deduce that piracy isn’t stealing.

Look up any definition of stealing, and it always boils down to: taking something that you don’t have permission to take.

No, this isn’t limited to physical items. Companies steal our data all the time.

I think people need to shift from “Piracy isn’t stealing” to “Fuck the corps, they don’t wanna play fair I’ll steal their shit and they won’t see a penny”

[–] SolarMyth@aussie.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

The argument goes that stealing involves taking something from someone, whearas pirating produces a copy. If you take someone's car, they don't have a car anymore, but copy their game and now you both have one.

That said, I don't think it follows from "buying isn't owning" that "piracy isn't stealing". Its a pithy slogan that captures a mood, but I don't think it really makes sense.

Your position, I believe, is more coherent: "I don't care if it is stealing". It might not technically be stealing, but its a breach of the terms of the sale that you tacitly agreed to when buying.

Something similar can be said for adblocking. People argue that it is "stealing" because there is a breach of the terms of use, and the ads fund the content. It might not really technically be stealing, but it is simpler to just say "I don't care what it is, I don't feel bad for giant corporations". You can also say this about shoplifting.

[–] Hexagon@feddit.it 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What buying was supposed to be: owning

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

And if buying isnt owning, that means you're paying 70+ dollars to rent a game that can be taken away from you at any time.. with no refund or recourse.

Would anyone be stupid enough to rent a game for 70+ dollars? especially under those conditions?

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But you've never owned movies or games. Purchasing let's go really far back VHS gave you a license to watch the movie. Always has been this way.

[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Coming from that era myself, buying a VHS tape absolutely gave you ownership of that copy of the movie. Same with music, which is why homemade mixtapes were such a popular and permitted thing.

Studios didn't like it, but no one went after the guy with the little vinyl briefcase of 100 different mixtapes for every sort of occasion.

[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Open sourcing of operational licenses.