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I have. He didn’t.
He did find Erkenbrand and lead him and his men to Helm’s deep, but his presence alone drives the hillmen to collapse in fear; he never lays a hand on them. Erkenbrand and his troops rout the orcs and hillmen, and kill quite a few (mostly orcs, as the books note that at that point thanks to Gandalf many of the hillmen lost the will to fight and surrendered, and the Rohirrim accepted that surrender).
So I guess if you want to stretch the definition of ‘kill’ to ‘told an army their king needed help and showed them where to go’ then I suppose you could lay those deaths at Gandalf’s feet? Although I would argue he actually saved lives there, since if they had continued fighting Erkenbrand’s men and Theoden’s men would have torn all the hillmen apart.
At the battle of Minas Tirith he holds the broken gate the whole night against the leader of the Nazgûl (by parking himself in front of it and refusing to move), but then once backup arrives he has to turn and run for it to save Faramir from being burned alive, so he doesn’t get into a fight then either.
At the Battle at the Gate him killing, specifically, isn’t mentioned either way. One could assume from the writing that he at last drew his sword and finally killed people in support of being as big a distraction as possible, but Tolkien never explicitly said, like he did for some of the other characters. All he says is:
Which could just be him intimidating people again, although I doubt it. But even then, given how humans in the employ of the Dark Powers fear him so much, it’s more likely he was just fighting orcs.
Jesus fucking Christ this is some high level cope, if you've convinced yourself that Gandalf carried a sword through this many battles on the front lines without ever killing anybody then too far up your own ass to see daylight, you are a waste of time
I’m going by what the book said, dude. It’s called reading. It’s not as if Tolkien was afraid to talk about his heroes killing, either; for heaven’s sake, Gimli and Legolas even have a contest counting kills at one point!
And again, Gandalf was only in two battles (Helm’s Deep and Morannon) and in Helm’s deep it’s not said that he killed anyone.
Why are you so desperate to believe Gandalf is out there whacking everyone with a sword, never mind what the book says?
On an unrelated note, earlier you said that you ‘moved on’ from fantasy to nonfiction, as though that somehow makes you more mature? Or something? Why? What makes you see fantasy as lesser than biographies and history books?
You're ignoring a whole lot of what the book said and pretending that the few parts you're quoting do anything to support your inane assertion, if you had any self awareness or dignity you'd be dying of embarrassment. I don't base my politics on fiction, it's extremely simple and makes a shitload of sense if you're being honest.
We were talking about the fights Gandalf was in and how many he killed. I was referencing the fights in the book, you know, the source material, and how may he killed. How is quoting sources ‘embarrassing’? If you disagree, then perhaps post references from the book proving your assertions, instead of doing an ad hominem?
And I dunno, the Vimes Boots Economic Theory works just as well in the real world as on the Disc as far as I’ve seen.
Just because someone dresses up political commentary with wizards and witches and the Night Watch doesn’t mean the policies they’re expounding on are any less valid. Sometimes is all escapism, yes. But sometimes it’s actual political points looked at from a different perspective, like how Star Trek took on issues of the day by disguising it as ‘visiting those crazy aliens’.
I'm right, cry about it
I would just like to point out that ignoring evidence and stating ‘I’m right’, without showing any supporting evidence, is no better than ‘basing politics on fiction’. Just because the ‘I’m right’ vibes are in your head doesn’t make them any less of a fantasy.
I've presented better evidence than you and you know it
If you have, I don’t see it.
No shit Sherlock, what you see is apparently a war story protagonist who somehow gets zero kills, fucking moron