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I am technologically skilled to some extent, but not nearly enough to justify the financial investment I'm about to make In a home server without checking that I'm not way off the mark. Reddit tech answers are usually useless, all jerking each other off about being the most vague and useless. So I'm here, just humbly asking if my plan will work before I waste a ton of money if it doesn't.

So I want to run immich, jellyfin, vaultwarden, and a couple other small programs (including backup automation) on a home server. The photos and videos are very important and I want off of large corporate cloud services for all the reasons you can imagine. There are about 2TB of important photos and data right now to backup.

So my plan: a mini pc with a low-level i3 or i5 chip but about 256gb SSD and 8gb ram. I will buy a UPS, a hub/NAS for 2 4TB HDDs, and a separate hub for backups elsewhere on another 4TB HDD. I already have a pc with an ok graphics card (only like 8 years old, but it was above average then) and good processor. My plan is to run the server with Linux, docker, and portainer on the mini-pc, and do the most intensive work (things like local Machine Learning on the photo library in immich) on the gaming pc. To save on energy, the mini pc is the only thing on most of the time, and I will turn on the old gaming pc to do the hard tasks.

I am hoping a friend will allow me to (somehow? I don't know how yet) keep a hub+HDD backup at their place which is updated weekly automatically whenever their computer turns on.

Is this all achievable? Am I missing something small or huge? Any tech people here know something that I'll likely miss on my first attempt?

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[–] Chana@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This will all work but you may want to leave yourself with a few paths for growth that you may want to take now or later, so you'll want to plan your base components accordingly.

  1. 3 drives is the minimum for reliable error correction, like a 3-way mirror, for your NAS. This is a great feature. Some filesystems will let you just keep adding drives to a 3-way mirror, too, which makes expansion easier. You can actually get much more storage efficiency from 6 drives and erasure coding (like raidz2) but that will of course mean needing to buy 6 drives (but getting the storage of 4 not 2).
  2. For good performance you'll want your main service data files local and your big files (like movies and photos) on the NAS. And have a backup strategy that copies your local service data files to the nas.
  3. The machine learning stuff with immich doesn't need a GPU beyond what your CPU already has but it does need RAM. I think you'll want at least 16 GB in general to run these workloads and have room to make changes.
  4. You'll benefit from having a wired network connection between NAS and mini PC. Even just running 1gbe Ethernet from each to a router. This decreases latency and will prevent throttling your WiFi.
  5. For off-site backups I recommend making backups that are encrypted at rest. If this is too expensive (because it basically doubles your photos storage requirement, for example), at least encrypt just before sending to the destination (like with restic or Borg). I also recommend doing some zero trust work on that off-site machine to prevent access - a user accessible only via ssh or root, system storage encrypted. Then there won't be any snooping. Even if your friend is cool you never know who might visit. A backup method that deduplicates can be nice for saving storage and many will also encrypt by default.
  6. If your stronger computer can run virtual machines you can also run workloads on that.
  7. Monitoring is good for everyone but it's especially handy when you're building your own storage and backups solutions so make that a priority. Like setting up Prometheus and grafana and having a bunch of stuff report to it, especially backup attempts and drive health.
[–] DutchMZTer@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Very good information! I had no idea that 3 was the minimum for drives for RAID error correction. I thought a RAID6 configuration with 2 drives was already doing error correction?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can't have a RAID6 with 2 drives. RAID6 uses 2 drives just for parity.

You can have a RAID1 (mirroring) with 2 drives.

[–] DutchMZTer@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I definitely confused those. I do not have money for higher RAID than 1 lol. Also don't need it, I think. But I would like to be as little dependent on 1 HDD as possible, because I care about the data. So does it make sense to do RAID 1 so that 1 can break and the other still works? Then I still have back while redundancy is lost?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's fine if you are willing to use half of your disk space on redundancy.

ZFS can do that.

[–] DutchMZTer@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bever heard of ZFS, dont really understand it. Does a software achieve this for my backups?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

It's a filesystem with support for software RAIDs among other things. There is also Linux device mapper.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A 3-way mirror is basically software level RAID 1 but you can lose 2 discs without losing data. This is the same redundancy level as RAID 6 / RAIDZ2, but it's less storage efficient. On the plus side, it's very low overhead, simple to think about, and will be faster at reading / writing.

So let's say you're doing a 4 TB disc buy and can choose between mirror and erasure coding, same level of redundancy at somewhat optimal setups for this scale.

For 3 way mirror: 3 discs, you have 4 TB useable storage and should really try to keep it under 80% utilization so more like 3.2 TB. Cost is 3 x drive price. You can add one disc at a time and restripe if using a software RAID that supports it or get 3 more discs to double storage. You can use ZFS or btrfs for this, maybe some others.

For erasure coding: 6 discs, you have 16 TB useable storage, 12.8 TB if staying under 80% utilization. Cost is 6 x drive price. This is harder to expand but it's sometimes possible, usually with a lengthy redistribution process. You basically need to use ZFS for this. You pay more for power due to the number of discs always spinning.

IMO you should figure out a reasonable guess at how much storage you need and then double it, then compare prices for the drives you'd need to get that with either level.

[–] DutchMZTer@hexbear.net 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is a 3 way mirror possible with one at a distance/on a different network or processor? Or is there some way I could make the 3rd of the mirror at a distance at a friend's house?

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is possible but performance is so bad and setup so complex that your definitely don't want to do it.

[–] DutchMZTer@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ok so reliable saving of my data in a safe way is, instead of 3-2-1, actually 4-2-1 if I want mirroring for corruption check... damn

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Kinda yeah the redundancy is less of a backup and more of a resiliency for your main data repository. 3-2-1 could be 1 off-site backup and a local backup within that NAS, e.g., so only 1 off-site drive needed.