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What is this, a Monty Python skit? How the fuck are they gonna come with a consensus with all these choices?
There's really just choices 1 & 2. The rest are just elaboration. And what the fuck is even 'none of the above'?
Really, there's just 'yes' and 'no'. If it's a 'yes', there would certainly be condition, which can come later. If it's a 'no', who give a shit why; it's a vote, not a fucking book club. They can definitely put the reason in the comment, but do they really need to put the reasons as the choice?
They used AI to come up with the choices
First time?
Long time Debian user. First time really paying attention to their governance process.
Long time Debian user and governance appreciator. Welcome. If you want some schizophrenia inducing reading material you should go back and check the long and well documented history of Debian voting.
especially the adoption of systemd that was decided by only 4 people back around 2014
Debian: the worst Linux distribution, except for all the other ones.
yes and i'll be going back to it anyways. lol
Where did you pull that number from? https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initsystems/results.txt
The smallest difference between a systemd option and a “not-onöl-systemd option” I see is
And it makes sense: the most likely contender at the time was upstart, which didn't stand the test of time AFAIK (I don't think the systemd hater crowd still uses that)
So it ended up the right decision. Would they have decided differently if other good init systems had existed already? Maybe, but they didn't.
https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1403.0/00130.html
it was fun trip down memory lane looking for this... thank you github for being down today. lol
Yeah, no matter the truth content of this piece of tinfoil, the vote I linked shows that systemd continued being agreeable among voters.
The handful of conspiracy myth believers are now on Devuan if that still exists. Presumably mad about something else that exists only in their head.
Nothing, really, is stopping them from making it easier to use other init systems.
Yes that was very GNOME of them.
I would say it’s okay with more than yes/no. You could say yes, but only if code review by human. The difference is that if you can only say yes or no, you would have to say yes, but then don’t know if the details of the final rules of AI in the project would actually be a dealbreaker for you. However, these options are a little too much.