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[–] pastaq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lied is doing a lot of dishonest work here.

  • There were mask shortages and they wanted to ensure the front line medical staff around the country had masks first
  • When he said that we didn't yet know about asymptomatic transmission.
  • There wasn't any data yet on how the virus spread.
  • There wasn't data on if homemade cloth masks would be effective.
  • He reversed this stance a month later when the data supported the guidance.

This is the kind of bullshit peddling that causes people to mistrust science. He made a decision based on the best evidence at the time, and then continued to update that stance as new information came in. What you're doing is exactly the kind of post-mortum FUD that the person you replied to was talking about.

[–] kljafgg9r0@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There were mask shortages and they wanted to ensure the front line medical staff around the country had masks first

Okay, so you already admit he HE LIED. And it's a ridiculous reason anyway, hospitals don't get masks at the grocery store, they have their own suppliers. He could have even told people to wear cloth masks!

Japan and a bunch of other countries were already masking up. It's so basic anyone who graduated high school biology could tell you this was an airborn disease and that masks would help.

He reversed this stance a month later when the data supported the guidance.

No he didn't, there was no 'data' to support the guidance. China, SK, and Japan and more were already masking up.

Your first sentence also contradicts this-you said "There were mask shortages and they wanted to ensure the front line medical staff around the country had masks first" There it is, he knew masks were working, and he told people not to wear masks. Not because of 'new data' but because he wanted to prevent mask shortages, which didn't work anyway and helped the disease rapidly spread because people were told not to mask.

God you people are so pathetic defending this misinformation that literally killed thousands of people.

[–] pastaq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Okay, so you already admit he HE LIED. And it's a ridiculous reason anyway, hospitals don't get masks at the grocery store, they have their own suppliers. He could have even told people to wear cloth masks!

There absolutely were mask shortages. Full stop. You are the one lying.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7129293/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-were-running-out-of-masks-in-the-coronavirus-crisis/609757/

They then told people to make masks at home and leave the N95 for healthcare workers.

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-make-a-mask-out-of-fabric

https://twin-cities.umn.edu/news-events/diy-face-masks-during-covid-19

Your first sentence also contradicts this-you said "There were mask shortages and they wanted to ensure the front line medical staff around the country had masks first" There it is, he knew masks were working, and he told people not to wear masks. Not because of 'new data' but because he wanted to prevent mask shortages, which didn't work anyway and helped the disease rapidly spread because people were told not to mask.

Convenient of you to leave out the part about ASYMPTOMATIC TRANSMISSION that I mentioned, which they didn't know yet. Masks for symptomatic people and people caring for the sick were always recommended.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-07-27/timeline-cdc-mask-guidance-during-covid-19-pandemic

All of these articles were posted during COVID. You're full of shit. Stop spreading lies.