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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have decided not to extend the benefit of the doubt to the government who's ethnic cleansing campaign against Russian people kicked off this war

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Absolutely, I generally do not trust or support people who do things like this:

Or do you mean the war thing?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are we supposed to pretend Russia doesn't have the same neonazi problem Ukraine has?

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

neonazi problem Ukraine has?

The neonazi problem that is the government of Ukraine and is stuffing Ukranian men into vans to be sent to the meat grinder?

Because Russia is not doing that.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Russia has absolutely been throwing young men into the meat grinder. Hold Ukraine responsible sure but don't lie.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Is it combing the country with kidnapping squads to force terrified fathers and sons into vans?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't know what you're thinking you're doing here. My response was referring to the "toleration" of nazi groupings in the Ukrainian army, saying that yes in fact neonazis are a general problem in this war because the Russian army also "tolerates" nazis in its ranks.

You're responding to that by diluting the issue to something else completely, and changing the subject to "recruitment" tactics and the devaluing of the lives of soldiers.

That's quite a bizarre way to change the subject from nazis operating in the open in the Ukrainian and the Russian armies. I guess it's rhetorically "effective" because now I'm supposed to respond to this other thing but it's frankly dishonest and it's hushing up the neonazi issue. Enjoy your upvotes I guess.

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

You dummy, if both sides have a neo-nazi problem, then the side that has neo-nazi as their government AND as the military branch (AZOV) is the much, much more serious problem to worry about. Especially if that neo-nazi government and military is being aided by western powers.

Oh, aided by western powers who also aid "Israel" in their genocidal quest of eradicating Palestine? Zelensky also said he wants Ukraine to be the "Israel" of Europe btw.

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you're not already banned you soon will be. You're not allowed to question Russian propaganda on communities that end in .ml

They always "claim" to be progressive and good. But immediately ban anyone who points out facts.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

.ml account, posts random shit, claims victory....

Are you MAGA? Because that is text book MAGA. They couldn't respond to a post with anything but gibberish either hmmm

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you blueMAGA? you're posting gibberish in a moral panic over those "dastardly Russians" while ignoring any points that contradicts your worldview.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean when a child starts talking about their imaginary "friends". I tend not to take them or what they say seriously. I don't think Russians are "dastardly" (although the use of that term does fit with someone who has imaginary friends)... I think most Russians are just trying to survive like the rest of us. Now Putin there is a full on evil dictator with delusions of world domination. (same goes for Trump and Xi).

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Now Putin there is a full on evil dictator with delusions of world domination. (same goes for Trump and Xi).

Of course you think real life works like Star Wars, you're 12

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd rather be twelve then believe the earth is flat, and my abuser (Putini) isn't doing it because he is bad, he "loves" me...

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

You clearly have some other shit going on.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The liberal mind when attempting to process patterns or communists:

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Random nonsensical reply, must be a Putin version of a Tumper

[–] sushiatnight@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is the "Russian propaganda" in the room with you now?

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was following the existence of these groups for a while back in the day. Their crimes does not make an excuse to annex a country. Maybe everyone's got that COVID brain now but if you can focus a bit you night remember that Russia keeps annexing independent countries whether or not there's nationalist boogiemen present.

But I'm sure foreign intervention is cool to you types, after all the US does it so it's fine right?

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Their crimes does not make an excuse to annex a country.

Nobody is trying to annex Ukraine dude, not before the war and definitely not now. I don't know where you guys get the idea that you can just Say Shit and have it count in an argument, but that is not the case. This war began in part because the Russian Federation would not abide the presence on their border of a fascist puppet government of a nuclear-armed enemy coalition that has helped pillage it's economy and kill millions of it's people within living memory.

Do you know what would happen if Russia annexed Ukraine? That's right, their border would now be with Poland, a member of the nuclear-armed enemy coalition that etc etc. Except now their border would be a salient vulnerable from three sides and they would also be tied down by administering the basket case that western Ukraine has become. I am begging you people to stop thinking that life is a movie and Russians are the unthinking orc bad guys, and actually consider the strategic situation from their position. They don't fucking want Ukraine. Not even NATO fucking wants Ukraine. Ukraine is a spent munition.

Russia keeps annexing independent countries

Source: my fevered dreams

And again, this is something NATO and the US do constantly, nonstop, while accusing their enemies of doing. It's an incredibly predictable pattern. They did in in Ukraine dude. They've been doing it since after WW2. Invade/coup a country on the other side od the world. Install fascists to administer it for you. Declare it an independent state. Instigate further conflict, claim locals started it. We must defend South Korea. We must defend South Vietnam. We must defend Ukraine. Bam, you are now "defending the sovereignty" of a people whose government you picked for them, and whose struggling bodies you have thrown into conscription vans for a war you started from thousands of miles away and are making bank off of. It is so very depressing that after most of a century, this trick still works on liberals, and it works because they want to believe it.

But I’m sure foreign intervention is cool to you types, after all the US does it so it’s fine right?

-You in 1944, smugly opposing D-Day

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t know where you guys get the idea that you can just Say Shit and have it count in an argument

Because they're nazis. They literally don't give a shit. It's the enemy. You can just say whatever you want about the enemy. If someone argues with you then you've rooted out a spy.

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