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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was following the existence of these groups for a while back in the day. Their crimes does not make an excuse to annex a country. Maybe everyone's got that COVID brain now but if you can focus a bit you night remember that Russia keeps annexing independent countries whether or not there's nationalist boogiemen present.

But I'm sure foreign intervention is cool to you types, after all the US does it so it's fine right?

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Their crimes does not make an excuse to annex a country.

Nobody is trying to annex Ukraine dude, not before the war and definitely not now. I don't know where you guys get the idea that you can just Say Shit and have it count in an argument, but that is not the case. This war began in part because the Russian Federation would not abide the presence on their border of a fascist puppet government of a nuclear-armed enemy coalition that has helped pillage it's economy and kill millions of it's people within living memory.

Do you know what would happen if Russia annexed Ukraine? That's right, their border would now be with Poland, a member of the nuclear-armed enemy coalition that etc etc. Except now their border would be a salient vulnerable from three sides and they would also be tied down by administering the basket case that western Ukraine has become. I am begging you people to stop thinking that life is a movie and Russians are the unthinking orc bad guys, and actually consider the strategic situation from their position. They don't fucking want Ukraine. Not even NATO fucking wants Ukraine. Ukraine is a spent munition.

Russia keeps annexing independent countries

Source: my fevered dreams

And again, this is something NATO and the US do constantly, nonstop, while accusing their enemies of doing. It's an incredibly predictable pattern. They did in in Ukraine dude. They've been doing it since after WW2. Invade/coup a country on the other side od the world. Install fascists to administer it for you. Declare it an independent state. Instigate further conflict, claim locals started it. We must defend South Korea. We must defend South Vietnam. We must defend Ukraine. Bam, you are now "defending the sovereignty" of a people whose government you picked for them, and whose struggling bodies you have thrown into conscription vans for a war you started from thousands of miles away and are making bank off of. It is so very depressing that after most of a century, this trick still works on liberals, and it works because they want to believe it.

But I’m sure foreign intervention is cool to you types, after all the US does it so it’s fine right?

-You in 1944, smugly opposing D-Day

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t know where you guys get the idea that you can just Say Shit and have it count in an argument

Because they're nazis. They literally don't give a shit. It's the enemy. You can just say whatever you want about the enemy. If someone argues with you then you've rooted out a spy.