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[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Self-hosted LLMs are neat and private, if you (already) have the hardware/budget and some cheap (solar PV) surplus juice to drive it.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you know anyone doing all of that? Running a local model on off-grid power?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Someone mentioned that, but it doesn't have to be off-grid. My 2 kWp system is grid-tied and if I would start running a local LLM it would be an incentive to add another couple.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It may sound odd but I’ve heard people bring up the above point a few times. “AI isn’t bad - if you run it on a sustainable off-grid system it’s perfectly fine.”

But I have NOT encountered people actually doing this even once, let alone a few times. That’s why I was asking.

Anything that wastes energy can be recast as harmless if you put it on an imaginary sustainable setup but that just seems like fantasizing.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Renewable infra isn't sustainable, since it can't be built with renewable energy alone. As such it's just a fossil multiplier. I make about 2/3rd of my own net power, since my electricity meter is old enough to run backwards. I can't install more orelse my meter would read negative. I intend to run a Qwen model that fits my 8 GB HBM Radeon card as an experiment during the day, starting end of this month.

If this works I consider running something hotter, and double my PV capacity. Adding AC or an EV would be another option. None of this is sustainable, but not exactly a fantasy.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

oh so yours is trained on ethical sources? you compensated the creators for their work and did so with their consent to machine training?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What the fuck are ethical sources? Where is compensation and consent when I unapologetically use pirate archives of books and papers? You people crack me up.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the fact that you have no idea what I'm talking about either means you're full of shit, or cartoonishly stupid and evil.

Probably both

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you immediately descend into ad hominems indicates that you're a just another troll that should be posting from hexbear.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you're simply used to llm sycophancy, not talking to actual people.

you really not understanding training on sources compensated for their content is hilariously stupid

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're not understanding what standing on the shoulders of giants means. Locally hosted open weights models are free/libre and puts you in control of your data. Since we're talking about hilariously stupid.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

aw poor baby got schooled and cried to the mods lol