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Naw, people get called tankies for pretending the USSR/China/DPRK were perfect and did no wrong.
Your comment translated to the right would be "People will call you a nazi for saying you think we should have borders."
Nobody but the absolutely deranged stretches that far, but people who are that extreme do like to pretend that their entire half of the political spectrum is labeled equally extreme; strength in unity by inventing enemies, I guess.
How many bombs has China dropped in the last 50 years? There's a reason so many people prefer China over America.
I sure as heck don't prefer China. America and China are both awful.
I think you've been drinking too much Chinese gutter oil.
I think you've been mainlining American propaganda for your entire life. How many illegal wars has America started in the last 50 years? What about China?
Hardly. I'm not American nor do I live in America. I will happily agree with you that America sucks, and yes I am fully aware they have illegally or unethically interfered with other countries in many ways, including starting wars, for a long time.
However, China is not some wonderful utopia you seem to be trying to paint it as. There are many problems with China too, obviously not exactly the same problems as America, but they exist, and to claim otherwise just makes you look like a CCCP shill.
I never said America was free of problems.
That's the issue with people like you; you see zero nuance. Any criticism of any (pseudo-)socialist group must be met with Whataboutism or other bad faith arguments.
Answer the question or fuck off, lol.
I'm happy to concede it's zero without looking it up; it makes no difference to either of our positions here.
It's just a Red Herring for you to mount a soapbox to tell me and anyone who hasn't blocked you yet how China Did Nothing Wrong and America Did Nothing Good.
That's why people evidently keep calling you a tankie, and that's how you and I differ so I never get called a tankie.
TL;DR: Not All Socialists Are Tankies, but All Tankies Think All Socialists Are Tankies.
Great, you passed the first test, lol.
lol tf u talkin about lol begone
Do you think you have some kind of power over this comment section? Begone? Eat my ass, lmao. American exceptionalism is so embarrassing lmao.
I'm just telling you to fuck off in a more polite way, Mr. Nonconfrontational.
You are just inventing straw men to attack at this point, after ignoring just about everything I said (save for the parts that helped you pivot to your propaganda pitch).
You've done a +1 in the bucket of "Should I just block lemmy.ml?" Like 90% of the socialists I talk to from there end up being tankies and it's exhausting, not to mention erodes my faith in socialism. As I said, nothing you've said here has been in good faith.
Why do you argue in bad faith? I have no idea. Maybe you're secretly anti-socialist and want to make socialists look dumb.
soo, just to chime in, i get your whole point, and i agree with you. i'm just gonna propose another explanation why the other user behaves like a tankie:
meanwhile, the sovjet union failed for complex geopolitical reasons that had basically nothing to do with military power. so the tankies are wrong, but they're wrong because they're deeply hurt themselves, not because they're inherently evil people.
Oh I don't think they're evil. I stated very clearly that I have no idea what's going on in their head.
All I know is the effect they have on others, which is negative on average, and as a result - harmful to the spread of goodness in humanity.
It's like the kid down the street who was beat up by some black kids and is forever racist because of it. I can intellectualize that he's deeply hurt by his experience, and I can try to talk him out of being racist, but I'm still going to dislike him and try to block him from affecting others with his poison.
Again I'll remind that "Nonconfrontational" person I blocked you, so there's no point in replying to me. Following me around the thread downvoting everything I say kinda highlights the issue with people like you.
Before you assert that I must not have blocked you or I wouldn't know it was you:
I saw the
1 more replyand Lemmy wouldn't let me read it, which I assumed means it's from someone I blocked.I want to say you're the third or so person I've ever blocked on Lemmy.
I double-checked by logging out, and confirmed it was you.
My advice would be to touch some grass.
Lmfao. Y'all are fucking sick.
Edit: The bizarre lengths people go to to censor their own world view, lmao.
The USSR defeated the literal Nazis lol. God forbid they get a bit of praise in their attempt at socialism. Meanwhile, permanent war from America across the globe.
That sucks, or is good. I'm not reading your drivel. Can't wait for your country to collapse, either way.
Death to America.
K, whatever.
Enjoy making socialism - and the world - worse. I'll continue to try to make it better.
Lmao, thank you for ridding me from you!
(citation needed)
also, yeah, bombs are one thing, and i see your argument there.
however, what moves people is largely the economic situation. people get dissatisfied with the US today because incomes are declining for the masses.
No response to the pew research article? Just downvotes? Interesting.
Hellooooo
lol