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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/68754751

There was a time I chose Firefox over the Chromium browser without a second thought. But nowadays, installing and opening Firefox seems like a time-consuming, very bloated experience.

Too many unnecessary features, promotions, sponsored links, and widgets are filled on the homepage. All the settings are now more complex, and there is a lot to set up after a fresh install.

When I compare modern Firefox with Firefox ESR, I feel like I am using browsers like Vivaldi or Opera instead of Firefox. Seriously, Firefox must consider releasing a browser like Brave Origin (Firefox Origin or something).

Isn't anybody else frustrated with the new Firefox changes? If yes, what practical solutions exist? Debloat using any script or install any forks (no forks seem to be good; some are outdated, some are too much hardened, some are just not for daily browsing, etc.).

I'm just looking for a browser like Ungoogled Chromium but for Firefox (Unmozillaed Firefox).

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[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Librewolf is a good browser. Not bloated with features and doesn't have AI installed by default.

Seconded. Yay for librewolf! That's my go-to browser now too.

Tho I also agree with blackbeans@lemmy.zip, we still need moz to maintain the engine. There are only 2 (?) cross platform browsers engines left.

This is the prob with the web becoming a highly complex app engine. The technical reqs to make a browser engine are so high, only a few huge companies can do it. Even MS gave up. G now has a lock on desktop browsers, esp if you count all the rest like Edge that use G's engine. That gives G monopoly power to dictate web standards. And pull hostile acts like HW attestation that could lock out open OSs like Linux unless you "authenticate" with Android or IOS.

[–] dsilverz@catodon.rocks 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My problem with librewolf is that, despite having RFP (Resist Fingerprint) off, it doesn't allow me typing accents from my ABNT2 (Brazilian) keyboard (I cannot type words such as "ração", "óbvio", "maltês", etc, I have to type them using kde plasma then copy and paste inside the browser), as if librewolf were US-centric. The devs didn't point me a solution when I opened an issue ticket, so I went with Waterfox instead. Waterfox allows me to type accents the way I'm accustomed as a Brazilian.

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[–] Zeh_oniam@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Literally not a problem to me, I can type ração, óbvio and maltês without a problem. Maybe you messed up something on your machine?

I don't have a big opinion on it, but my preference is on Librewolf over Waterfox simply for the lack of AI being shoved down my throat.

[–] dsilverz@catodon.rocks 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

To me, it has definitely nothing to do with system (KDE Plasma on Arch Linux) because Librewolf is the only piece of software in which accents don't work. Even AppImage programs, which often lack a better integration with the X Session, have no problem with accents.

Also, ABNT2 accents are correctly parsed by Waterfox, even by Basilisk and Pale Moon which I also got here, as well as by the original Firefox (which I keep for things such as internet banking), even though they all share the similar "under-the-hood" Gecko (Goanna in case of Pale Moon and Basilisk), so this problem is part of the Librewolf hardening.

In fact, the very Librewolf FAQ mentions this:

Other common problems brought by RFP include:
[...]
- suppressed keyboard modifier events using alt-keys.

These annoyances are intended to protect your privacy [...]

Problem is, even if RFP is turned off, this hardening keeps occurring, and it's PITA having to spin up a KDE Kate just to type something I can type directly in all the other browsers (including in the Geminispace's Lagrange browser and the TUI-based Lynx, both places in which accents wouldn't be even expected to begin with). So while I still have Librewolf among my browser installations, I only use it for things such as news outlets and certain websites because this is where it thrives, keeping some resemblance of private navigation.

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[–] lsjw96kxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

I don't know for Brazilian but for me in french, I use a variant of the french keyboard that include all necessary accents on the keyboard and not as alt-codes. Maybe there is something similar in the settings.