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Two years into full-time Linux and I’m finally burning the distro-hopping cycle. I fell for the Arch/AUR trap for a while, but I got tired of spending my weekends debugging file manager crashes instead of maintaining my home lab.

Switched back to Fedora, and it’s boring in exactly the way I need it to be. It’s a stable launchpad for my projects, not the project itself.

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[–] esperal@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Yes ! I don't get why debian always seems to be forgotten outside of its server use. I have been running it for 2 years now (homelab, laptop and desktop).

[–] throwaway403@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Beyond none of its branches actually satisfying my preferences, I feel like the way it handles major version upgrades is way too involved. I suppose it makes sense; it's paying back the accumulated debt of a couple years worth of bliss...

Having said that, my experience on Fedora Atomic is (almost) equally blissful without requiring any of that whenever a major version update strikes.

Don't get me wrong; I definitely do believe Debian has its uses on desktop Linux. But I can't shake off the feeling that they're definitely more niche compared to say Fedora.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The upgrade issue is exactly why I don’t like Debian-based distros for my desktop

[–] SusanoStyle@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love Debian, I use it as desktop and it's installed in all my machines, but it has some problems/quirks that makes it hard to recommend it for desktop usage.

First one is that it doesn't have sensible defaults, the OS expects an user that is an admin, one that will configure things to his liking. I would consider this to be a feature, if it wasn't for the second problem, the documentation. The documentation is wayy too dated, lots of pages in the wiki haven't been updated since Debian Buster days!

A better recommendation would be probably a Debian derivative like MX-Linux. They are more opinionated, but as far as i know it, it comes with better defaults and offer newer guides, documentation, etc.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

debian always seems to be forgotten outside of its server use

Nah, not even for servers. SLSA and ISO27002. Validation in the other distros is better, and that's night-and-day for server sector.

I worked Unix in 99-06 and there's a reason their Linux offering wasn't debian: that validation hole.

[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Debian is nice & boring, but I have had issues with how old its kernel and software versions are. 6.12 isn't too bad for Trixie, but previously it was really terrible. When I was running Bookworm, I ran into plenty of situations where software I was compiling or getting from outside the repos (for niche software), wasn't backwards compatible to the library versions Debian provided.

No hate for Debian, but it just doesn't work for a lot of people. However, these days I would go for Debian over Ubuntu 10 times out of 10.

[–] Mondez 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is a release engineering issue on the developers side in my opinion though no less real. Developers targeting Linux should target the current version of big LTS releases like debian and Redhat enterprise if they are serious about compatibility beyond "works on my system"

For the vast majority of computer users I'd says debian is fine since most users hardly step out of the browser these days.

[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Staying compatible with LTS releases should absolutely be the goal, but that takes work from both sides.

If Debian is applying backported patches to old software (I think the oldest version I saw was 6 years out of support) that generates a nightmare to support for package maintainers. If there are features which are not supported since the version is so old, but there are backported security patches which change the API, the developers would essentially have to maintain a specific version for each LTS distro's specific set of patches, and the number of versions you have to maintain and the length of time you need to maintain them for quickly becomes impossible to manage.

Stable is nice, but you can have stability without being criminally outdated, as Trixie shows. The ideal is to have a stable and up to date distribution.

And yes, most users would be fine due to just being in the browser, but thats true of literally any OS or distro, not specific to this.

[–] Mondez 1 points 1 day ago

I don't think back ported security patches should be changing public APIs, are you speaking from actual experience or is that some kind of theoretical problem that might not actually exist or at least isn't the norm?