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[–] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You might want to read the judgement then, because Johnson has a very different understanding - he very specifically names the Suffragettes as not being terrorists, despite their use of public and personal bombings and arson attacks to intimidate and influence policy. The law is not being applied equally, it is being used as a bludgeon against those who oppose genocide.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did read it:

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/R-v-Charlotte-Head-and-others-sentencing-remarks.pdf

I don't have that much time so I read the justification for terrorist connection aggravating factor and it's exactly what I said here. I don't see anything about Suffragettes in there. Can you point me to the part that talks about it?

[–] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, rereading I was completely unclear about which case I was refering to, and got my conflicts of interest mixed up - I meant the proscription judgement (https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewca/civ/2026/721?query=AMMORI&court=ewca%2Fciv) and Johnson wasn't on this panel, his judgement is just based on it. The Suffragettes actions are specifically brought up as "civil disobedience" rather than "direct action", which is a distinction the proscription kinda hinges on.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 22 hours ago

Ok, I read it and

he very specifically names the Suffragettes as not being terrorists, despite their use of public and personal bombings and arson attacks to intimidate and influence policy.

Yes, it's a bad argument but it's bad from historical point of view, not legal one. I don't find misrepresenting Suffragettes invalidates the proscription.

That being said, obviously the government and courts are more eager to proscribe a leftist, anti-Israel organization than they would be a right wing one. I'm not claiming Palestine Action is wrong and the proscription is 100% justified. I'm just putting things into perspective. This is not illegal action by the government - this is supported by the courts and done according to the laws. The courts are not making things up and ignoring the fundamental principles of the legal process - they are applying the rules as defined by the government. And I'm not saying it makes this ok. I'm just clarifying the misinformation people are spreading here (like that they are sentenced for terrorism without the knowledge of the jury).