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Pretty much any moba. cs, r6, overwatch, lol, dota
This is so true
I played DotA when it was a custom WC3 map (and Aoens of Strife in SC). Seeing it become this whole genre and esports phenomena was weird. I feel like I could never take any of them seriously.
I used to screw around on the custom games and it's crazy seeing mobas and tower defense games take off when it was originally just nerds screwing around. It was so fun griefing footman wars and the hobbit and uther party and just about every game was griefable. Backdooring in OG DOTA would also really piss people off. Anyway I swore off LoL when it became a battle of keeping up with the meta and the stupid mini games that you had to play. Dota started doing something kinda similar with meta creep and I just don't want to watch hours of tutorials and follow the pro meta exactly to be at an elo where people aren't screaming the n-word over voice chat.
The only moba mode I thought was consistently fun was Ability Draft. It was so categorically broken and silly, but DotA 2 killed it off I think.
I think DOTA2 came quite a long way from the cheese factory that was the original WC3 map packs.
I actually went with a friend to a tournament, and was genuinely impressed at how the game felt watchable in a way you'd hope for a football or basketball game to be entertainment. The gameplay was fast-paced and full of reversals. The announcers helped fill in what a newb wouldn't immediately know about different builds and strategies. You got a steady buildup of excitement into those final minutes, when a timely save or kill could swing the match. Even the creep farming had a bit of tension, as you watch the teams race for the upper hand.
MOBAs were a natural fit for eSports. I get why it took off. Shame it hasn't endured.
This reminded me of how into RTS games I was when MOBAs really hit. I was deep into Company of Heroes, even involved with official patches and mapmaking. Definitely some bitter jealously at the mobas after that whole effort crashed and burned for us, in retrospect.