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[-] pkulak@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

It’s not a good look and they should have left him in. They are supposed to be the adults who do what’s best for the country, and instead of leaving a guy in place who has shown at least some inclination to break with the nut jobs and do what’s right, they are letting the entire chamber shut down until who knows when and some equivalent or worse republican is stood up in his place.

[-] miracleorange@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Dems have TRIED being the adults, and it hasn't worked; it's only gotten the country to where it is now. Might as well sabotage the party and let them wallow in their misery for another couple weeks.

[-] pkulak@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Lol. As an adult myself, I have yet to give up even though my kids have been acting like children for years now. You’re not actually that responsible if it’s only in small bursts when you feel like it.

[-] miracleorange@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago

That's... not a very good analogy. You chose to have kids. None of them chose to have evil/idiocy incarnate for coworkers.

[-] pkulak@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

You absolutely choose to be a member of the House of Representatives and the Democratic Party. Way more so than most parents choose to have kids. It can be shockingly easy to have a kid, but it's a bit of A Thing to be elected to the House.

Sorry, I hard disagree. Democrats have nothing to gain by and no responsibility for gratuitously voting for McCarthy. Republicans claim they have the majority, and that is how they control the chamber. But in fact, they do not, because an even more extreme right-wing third party is operating in bad faith under the GOP banner.

So the GOP wants the benefits of chamber control (speakership) without the responsibilities (voting majority). To not hold them to a voting majority is to give them a windfall of power without the votes to justify it.

[-] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They would have effectively owned him and forced him to act as a proper Speaker and not a political Muppet.

I can only assume this was offered and McCarthy would rather go down in flames than serve on his knees.

They would have effectively owned him and forced him to act as a proper Speaker and not a political Muppet.

They have no reliable leverage, unfortunately. After this vote, Gaetz and his merry band of misfits may change their mind. Similarly, their only "leverage" would be McCarthy honoring whatever agreement they came to prior to the vote.

[-] TheCalzoneMan@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

Which, as history shows, is a tenuous proposition at best.

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