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[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago
[-] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Isn’t Esperanto extremely Eurocentric though?

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Idk I thought it was an internationalist socialist idea, could be wrong

We do need to move away from english though and chances are we're all gonna learn mandarin soon enough anyway

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

chances are we're all gonna learn mandarin soon enough anyway

doubt

[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago

Those damn commies can't force me to speak Mandarin if I'm too stupid to learn it.

[-] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Isn’t Mandarin hard even for people who is their first language?

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah probably. Apparently china uses Esperanto anyway so maybe that's the middle ground.

We'll be economically incentivised to learn mandarin as china continues to play a stronger role in international trade/diplomacy tbh, those that study the language may get a leg up but the rest of us will absorb it to some degree or another as it absorbs us.

death to america, death to english et al

[-] jack@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, all languages are equally difficult to learn for a native speaker growing up immersed in one. All natural languages are equally complex, but in different ways. English is most complex phonologically, meaning it has a large group out sounds and many ways they can fit together. It's simple morphologically, meaning words don't change very much in different situations. Think about the way Spanish verbs are different depending on the person/group/thing doing the action; English verbs barely change. Similar situation for nouns; Spanish nouns follow a gender system that affects other words near them, which English does not. Comparatively, Chinese has extremely simple grammar - there's no gender, number, tense, or conjugation. But it has a complex tone system where the exact pronunciation of a word can completely change its meaning. You can look at any language and see what's simple and what's complex.

The difficulty of learning a language later in life is determined entirely by how similar it is to one's own language. So European languages are relatively easy to learn for speakers of other European languages (generally) and Chinese languages are relatively easy to learn for speakers of other Chinese languages (generally). For an English speaker (for example) the easiest languages to learn are Spanish and Norwegian/Danish/Swedish; they have simpler phonology than English and similar vocabulary and grammar. The most difficult are Japanese and some Native American languages, which are extremely grammatically different from English.

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