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I can't fully agree with you on this point.
Trolls participate. I feel more welcome on a platform where trolls are not allowed to participate too much.
Anti-science, anti-evidence peddlers of misinformation participate. I feel more welcome on a platform where they are not allowed to participate too much.
People attempting fraud and political manipulation participate. I feel more welcome on a platform where they are not allowed to participate too much.
There are many participants, each with different motives. Some of them set out deliberately to disrupt or harm the community. It is not good for the community if those participants are allowed to participate too much.
Voting is just one form of participating. It is not a universal good. It can be abused, like every other form of interaction in the community. I don't think it is true that completely unlimited voting is necessarily best for all communities and that any restriction of it is necessarily a result of a shitty attitude.
One of the aspects of the Fediverse that attracts me is that different instances can be different: they are not all required to regulate themselves by the same rules other than the rules of the ActivityPub protocol.
From my perspective, this platform (piefed.social) is welcoming in part because it does prevent some of those who would disrupt and harm its community from participating too much.
Whether the recent experiments in regulating voting will ultimately be good or bad for the community remains to be seen. But I don't think it is rooted in a shitty fucking viewpoint. I applaud the experiment. And you, of course, are free to enjoy unlimited voting on your own instance. Isn't that the point of a federation of diverse systems?
I find your disrespectful and abuse laden mischaracterization and rejection of a different viewpoint to be unwelcoming.
The issue with all of the things you mentioned is their participation, period. Not participating 'too much'.
Don't worry. You won't have to deal with me after this, on any instance. I'm out of the Fediverse after this.
Damn, sorry to hear your are leaving. I was considering it, but the .zip admins seem to be of the same mind as me and disabled the limiter.
It might be worth seeing if the anarchist fork of piefed is near completion (might be a migration option).
Either way, thank you for your contributions over the years I really enjoyed them. I hope you are able to find a location/platform where you're happy and appreciated :)
Unfortunately, the Flotilla has its own... distinct set of problems. If I return - and I wouldn't bet on it - it would probably be to .zip or .ca or the like.
For what it's worth, ive been on .zip since joining lemmy and it has been nothing but smooth sailing. We are a "boring" instance in the best sense, stuff is just working and the admin does a great job of keeping the users informed through monthly updates.
However i can definitely empathize with your frustration, you are one of the most prolific posters on the fediverse and migrating your work is still not as simple as it should be.
However you decide, thank you for all your entertaining and educational contributions 🫡
Gotcha, I can definitely understand that viewpoint.
Well, if you don't come back, I wish you happiness and a good rest of your life :)
There's a permanent home for you at lemmy.today if you want it. I'm sure we could give you enough...control... to be comfortable.
I appreciate the offer, but the issue isn't control. I could shop around for a new instance that looks stable (though, for the record, I would still probably prefer a Piefed instance - no offense to Lemmy.today) if I had the morale left to migrate my comms and build them back up, but I just... I don't. I've built them up three times, and I'm tired of rolling that boulder up the mountain. I don't have it left in me, especially since all three times it was just as they were beginning to become self-sustaining without me. It's... immensely demoralizing, and I don't have it left in me.
Maybe I'll feel different in a few months, but... I don't know, man. At some point, I have to ask myself the definition of insanity, and as much as I enjoy posting in active historical comms, getting them to the point where I'm not the only participant is long and tedious, and I just...
... feel like if it's not one thing, it's another. Kbin and lemm.ee went down. Dbzer0 shifted towards the tankies and bizarre clique shite. .world won't stop making amateurish admin mistakes. Now Piefed is playing "experiments in anti-social-media"...
Whether the Threadiverse itself has a future is a different question entirely - I suspect that it does, and that's a good thing.
But can I discern which currently-extant instance will be standing as-is in a year's time? Or will there be some fucking bullshit that comes up again, setting me back to square one trying to rebuild comms for a topic that there isn't a lot of organic growth for in the Threadiverse; comms that I can't just start and leave and act like a normal poster if I want it to have more than a dozen fucking upvotes and a post a week?
That question is... an extra weight on the already demoralizing prospect of moving, and one that I just...
... would rather not have to answer.
Tangeli, WTF?!
PJ, I straight up... you're my bro as far as I see it.
In any case, what are you weirdos doing here?