this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2026
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Imagine if you were on an instance that allowed 500 daily votes, but then PieFed.social only federated in the first 240 of them. Along with every single other instance that uses PieFed software and does not override the default settings. Maybe some instances will choose to allow 1000? Others 100? Still others unlimited? This is like defederation: it complicates the entire process of sending and receiving messages using the ActivityPub Protocol to implement the Threadiverse ideal.
And PieFed.social with its 240 daily vote quota is no tiny instance!! It matters to the Threadiverse overall what THIS instance in particular does!!!
Worse though, none of the instances are going to say what their particular settings are. New users would be impacted, except they cannot see what those settings are so cannot make decisions based upon any reliable source of facts. This will lead to fewer incoming users overall, at a time when the Threadiverse is already in decline.
There was a good idea buried somewhere in this implementation, but it was extremely poorly executed. What should have been an opt-in feature, fully implemented before being put on prod, and transparently explained, was instead haphazardly done, and the Fediverse overall will feel its impact for years to come.
I read through some other links you dropped in another post and, yeah, there's a good idea in there somewhere but it seems like it would be better handled case-by-case if vote manipulation is suspected.
I'm also not really buying the "These accounts control what you see" argument, especially given how many people simply browse by "new" where the score doesn't matter for ranking at all. I don't say that to suggest an ulterior motive, but simply that the problem seems blown way out of proportion and the solution feels poorly thought out and hamfisted.
I agree with you, and I think this change, and especially making it opt out instead of opt in, is just blatant vote manipulation and is actively making me not want to be here. I will likely migrate back to Lemmy since at least I can upvote and downvote without shady limits.
I really liked Piefed, but I just cannot support this. If the developers want to control what I see, then I'm out. There are other ways to solve this if they think there is BOTing, but even Rimu admits they don't think it's users with BOTs. Plus, I also sort by new like you mention, so other people voting doesn't even affect me or my feed.
I can't tell if this is a well-meaning, but badly implemented idea, or if this is a grudge against the most active members of our communities, but I can't just assume the best anymore.
Just an FYI if you want to stay on piefed, .zip has removed the limit and generally the admins are great :)