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Have fun fixing it when anything other than the ssd or ram breaks.
wtf who says this to people? Who raised you?
Lol. Thank you.
Smart people that taught me how to be objective in my decisions and plan ahead.
Dude can be proud of being a fanboy and a consumerist that buys everything and anything Valve makes, but no one can point out that that's kinda dumb? Ok.
Read the room buddy, this is a celebratory thread. We're excited the machines are shipping. This is a happy place. (With some gentle joking out of jealousy.).
You threw a big 'ole damper! OP is happy they got a thing and you respond with "have fun when it breaks!" You're going to get some funny looks when you do that.
While I am not one to shit on peoples excitement and personally I kinda want a steam machine (and especially want the controller), I do also think its fair to say the fediverse absolutely loves to be anti-consumer until its consumerism that appeals to us as a group 😅
Still not gonna be antagonistic about people's joy though 🤷🏻♂️ I kinda want one, I'd be jazzed if mine just showed up too
I feel sorry for anyone that doesn't have at least one area they are enthusiastic enough about to splurge a little in. Still, can we really call it consumerism when Valve releases hardware so infrequently? Seriously. 11 years between controllers? 7 years between VR headsets? 6+ years expected between handhelds?
You can hate on facts, they'll still be facts. Have fun ignoring reality, I guess.
I mean you could have made your comment about that and not “lol I hope your $1k cube breaks.”
Same goes for literally every comment in social media. Solid argument there bud xD
Also, electronic devices always break. It's not a matter of "if", but rather "when" and "what". I didn't say that I wish it breaks, just that it'll be a pia to fix when it does.
Someone here never got a single quality toy from their parents. That explains some things.
Electronic devices aren't toys and them breaking is a fact, not an opinion. Literally nothing lasts forever. Accidents happen too.
That's evident, there's still no reason for you to be raining over their parade. Only people with hate in them come out and do shit like that out of the blue, generating more hate, of course, which seems to be your intentiin now that I said that.wao, and I fell for it too. Good job.
Nah bruh. No hate here. I guess I was bored at the moment and started posting without a second thought. This definitely is the wrong place, but I do think that what I said is true. This steam machine v1 will most likely end up like the licensed steam machines valve launched way back when.
"Objective"? Any objective person would have come through the thread, and then move on. There's nothing objective about you except for the fact that you're and objectively sad individual who is probably going through some bad life situations. By the way, I'm being as objective as you, in case you're wondering.
What a fucking moron 🤣
That's literally a subjective opinion. You might need a thesaurus dude.
Lol. Don't assume I'm going into these purchases on blind fanboyism, and don't confuse "niche" with "bad." I just have very good experiences with their hardware going all the way back to the OG Controller, Link, and the Vive (which I consider theirs more than HTC's), and that informs decisions that follow.
Yeah. I tried gaming PC for a while. Have fun with random issues.
Same as a nas. Everyone tries building their own, and ends up going turnkey eventually
The steam machine IS a pc. I've also been "pc gaming" and haven't gone crazy or had unsolvable issues. When you can't fix something it's usually user error or ineptitude.
Sorry, that's what I mean. I mean custom pc
When you can't fix something, it's usually "the OEM is doing something insane in their ACPI code", or "you have a cracked MLCC somewhere, which pushes power delivery barely out of spec and some net doesn't make timing under complex microarchitectural conditions".
Repairability isn't an absolute scale, and smaller form factors need to make more compromises in modularity. It'd be silly to judge this on the same metric as a fully modular desktop PC since it's not trying to be a substitute for that use case.
However, you can build a pc with what the steam machine costs, and the steam machine is not that much smaller than an itx pc. So yeah, I think they can be compared.
The PC won’t be the same size. Or have CEC.
Side note: Seriously how the fuck do normal ass PCs not support CEC?
Not having cec control is such a minor inconvenience that I honestly don't even care. Regarding size, between tiny, unfixable and unupgradeable and small but fixable and upgradeable, the choice is pretty simple. Heck, the steam machine is not even better value than a similarly priced pc. It performs worse. Hopefully v2 will be better, if there is one.
I love that you talk about being "objective" and then make a bunch of extremely subjective statements.
Not taking into account the cec bit, everything else is pretty objective. You're trading in a few cm² for a lot of unnecessary inconvenience, and you're not even saving any money.
I'm very confused as to how you don't see the subjectivity in what you just said.
A device you can't repair or upgrade is objectively worse than one you can. If you prefer the latter beacause it's a bit smaller, then that's subjective.
"Not that much smaller" is doing some heavy lifting. Every SFF build or mini PC compromises something, price, size, thermal performance, whatever. Physics necessitates it. It's perfectly fine for you to not value size so much that a 3.8L case isn't compelling to you over let's say a 6L ITX case (or the 8L you really need for a discrete GPU), but it's also okay to feel the opposite.
Except that it's not just that. You build something larger but still pretty small and you can upgrade whatever you want, whenever you want. You can also have the same software experience by just installing bazzite. What valve has done for linux gaming is wonderful, but the steam machine simply does not make sense.
Doesn't literally everyone post their own opinions? What a dumb comment to make.
From what you wrote it didn't look like it was a "it make no sense for me" but more of a "it make no sense." I read so many people write that it make no sense for anyone atp
No one owns the truth, we all have our own. Should I add "imo" after every statement? Don't be thick.
I think you're just not seeing outside the bubble of the use cases that make sense to you. I already have great daily driver PCs currently running a mix of Bazzite and CachyOS (and Windows, ew), and I have built a couple SFF PCs before, so I'm no stranger to all of that. I can't speak for anyone else here, but part of why I find the Steam Machine compelling is it covering the opposite end of that spectrum to a degree other SFF options haven't reached.
If you already have a gaming pc then this makes even less sense. Just stream the games to your tv using a laptop. Or even better, a steam deck. See that is a device that justifies its compromises by offering an actually unique form factor that lets you game on the go. The "form factor" of the steam machine is "itx but smaller, impossible to repair and just as expensive". Yeah, no thanks.
Well, I never claimed it filled a necessary niche. It's a luxury good by definition. I just don't mind having multiple options, redundancy, and overlap in hardware roles even if that means some of it gets underutilized. That said, I'm not planning to keep the thing under the TV indefinitely. It's going to justify its standalone performance at least occasionally.
Fair enough.
Some people just don't have enough of a life to be happy for others. How sad your life must be.
Lol. If I wanted a steam machine, I would've bought it.