until you fundamentally change society by having strict fines, personal repercussions, and public shaming. . as well as education and wide spread access of disposal receptacles, and a waste recycling system that doesnt just dump 90% of its collected recyclables into a landfill.

Ayyy, thank you! I genuinely missed that snippet in the sea of you telling people they're wrong.

It seems to me like you're putting all your eggs into the "recycle" basket though, and ignoring the "reuse" and "reduce" baskets (which are just as important, and are much easier to address). Recycling is hard to do cost effectively, at scale, and can sometimes still be damaging to the environment anyways. Rinsing out your glass jelly jar or metal cookie tin and using them to store leftovers is really really easy. Why not acknowledge and focus on the easy stuff first, and maybe give ourselves more time to develop and refine the hard things like recycling? Who knows, maybe we get to a point where reducing consumption and reusing what we have is enough by itself, and we don't even need to bother with recycling! Wouldn't that be neat?

Do you think capitalism is a big driver in our disposable society? To me it seems like the main one. Capitalist economies have to keep money flowing to remain healthy, and the easiest way to do that is to constantly make new products for people to buy - new phones every couple years, new laptops, new computer parts, new power tools with new battery platforms that obsolete the old ones, new styles of clothing that obsolete the old styles, new cars that are better than the old ones, etc etc etc. If so, do you have any ideas on how to address that?