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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

You would have thought that the people making these shelters would have learned from Covid that they simply can’t crawl in a hole and stay safe. The wealthy are used to soft easy living and a underclass of people who do what they tell them to because of their money.

If we really had a society ending disease or event they wouldn’t last two weeks before they came out of their bunkers looking for entertainment because they were bored. You couldn’t tell most of them to stay inside or even wear a fucking mask during Covid.

On top of that they may have the skills to make money but the skills a P.E. Investor has from raiding healthy companies and pilfering assets is not the same skill set needed to lead people when money has no meaning and/or form collective groups to survive.

Without a government and its protection, the wealthy are just going to end up dead with the head of security for the bunker fucking their trophy wife.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

So.... become the head of security for a billionare, got it.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah..... No billionaire knows how to exist without exploiting labour. They aren't going to be going into their bunkers without security, chefs, cleaners, or entertainers. There's so much cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe that the government/world is going to be destroyed, but you will safe and still have a legal right to property.

The only thing that maintains their wealth is the legal and economic system they use to exploit other people's work. Without it their property is just going to be seized by the first person who is quicker on the draw.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean I'm about a billion dollars short of being a billionaire, and I don't know how to live without exploiting labor either. I can't farm, I can't hunt, I can't identify edible berries, roots, and mushrooms, I can't sew beyond fixing a button. I know a lot about mechanisms, but it's far from clear to me I could do anything useful in that field once the electricity is out, let alone once source metal starts getting hard to find. Everything would get so much harder so quickly. Hell, I don't even know how to dig a latrine that'll prevent the water supply from being contaminated, assuming we can find a water supply. (On the plus side, sources of pollution in water supplies should start to fall apart pretty fast.)

I dunno. I just think everyone thinking about the collapse wildly underestimates how hard everything will be. I can't really picture my sorry ass lasting long at all.

Eh... There's a difference between utilizing or societally benefiting someone else's labour and exploiting someone for their labour. Exploitation in an economic sense generally requires you to capitally monopolize a persons excess production value for personal gain. You can't really be considered exploitive unless you own the means of production. Basically unless you are a business owner or employ someone you aren't really participating in capitalism in an exploitive manner.

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