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[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tell that to the vast swathes of the globe, including China, due to face lethal wet bulb temperatures within the next 10-20 years. Which, along with mass death, means massive breadbasket failures on multiple fronts. Ain't politicking our way out of this one, chief.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, and someone was just arguing with me in a different thread saying vertical warehouse farming is stupid and we should just grow our crops in the ground outside 🙄

Like, I'm trying to be helpful here, but sure let's continue to make no systemic changes to the way things are done and just be frustrated when our problems only continue to get worse...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

lethal wet bulb temperatures

Europe wants to rebalance trade with Beijing, but can’t quit Chinese air conditioners

One country is producing all of the world's air conditioners. I wonder if they're in a better position to endure wet-bulb temperatures than their peers.

Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.

They absolutely can and will. This is a country that can build the infrastructure to keep people from dying of overheating. What's more, this is the country that can export that infrastructure globally, such that its allies will see improved survivability. And that will have cascading knock-on effects.

The ability to survive climate change is the ability to operate as a global center of gravity.

[–] j_overgrens@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago

Are we talking about the same country here? Where in "southern" provinces like Sichuan there is no heating provided in buildings? And people rely on electric heaters and blankets to stay warm?

[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think you missed the 'massive breadbasket failures' part of my comment. You can't air condition a field of rice. Well, you could, but good luck trying that on the scale needed to feed everyone once crops begin to fail globally.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize how many people in the world live in houses that aren't even fully-enclosed, right? Usually in some of the places that will be most impacted by climate change, too. Air conditioners won't be of much help to them.

Also, do you know how much coal China burns each year?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right?

It's crazy that you treat this as an insurmountable obstacle. Much less that there's no political cache in surmounting it.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Okay so just send in the Chinese in with their concrete and bulldoze these people's homes to build them new climate-controlled living spaces while also indebting them in higher amounts than they're likely to make in their lifetimes.

Cause that's different from colonialism how?

"Don't worry, primitives, we're here to surmount your obstacles for you. Because it's totally our place to decide that."

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

bulldoze these people’s homes

You appear to be suffering from an Israel moment

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, I'm just calling out the implications of your assertions.

You say,

It's crazy that you treat this as an insurmountable obstacle. Much less that there's no political cache in surmounting it.

How do you expect to surmount the obstacle? Just give them A/C units in their open-air homes? Or replace their homes with something enclosed and insulated? If it's the latter, how do you expect to do that without demolishing the existing structures?

Or do you mean to force them off their lands and put them somewhere else where you built new houses?

You seem to be doing a lot of work to try to justify your initial insinuation that global warming somehow won't affect the global south.

You scoff at wet bulb temperatures as if you have some easy obvious solution. Well, this is what your "solution" looks like in practice.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Or do you mean to force them off their lands

When you call in the A/C repair man, does the technician steal your property as part of the installation/repair?