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[–] doben@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 hours ago

That might be facts, but that’s not the whole story. History did not begin with the invasion. That narrative is not dissimilar to trying to pinpoint the Palestinian genocide to the singular event of Oct 7. There‘s precursors and reasons for what happened and ignoring them does in fact distort the picture heavily.

You’re thinking through an Us vs Them mentality, a bogeyman, and by that start to dismiss any narrative that contradicts ours. Of course, you can ignore them, or discredit anyone that works to take this conflict seriously. Or, careful, you yourself start taking „the other side“, „the enemy“ seriously, for example that Russia as sovereign regional power might be having legitimate interests and red lines, but also take seriously what the other involved parties say and do. For example, on our side: censorship, repression, fueling the war, prolonging the war, avoiding diplomacy, weaken asylum for Ukrainians, that fled the war, so they can be directly deported back into the meat grinder. On our side opposing narratives are systemically oppressed, for example by sanctioning journalists into absolute inability to live, like Hüseyin Doğru (who got sanctioned for his Palestine coverage with counterfactual reasoning in regards to Russia) or Jacques Baud. A recent court ruling now also actively criminalizes the reproduction/sharing of sanctioned content (like from RT, even if factual), so it‘s not enough to censor the media of the enemy in order to force you to only feed on one side. No, now individuals that share information from the other side’s perspective, can be jailed for up to five years. Opposing narratives in regards to the barbarian Israeli state is oppresed in Germany and the UK, already. But ignoring the roles of NATO in the making and maintenance of this war, ignoring the US‘ involvement in the coup, ignoring the fascist currents in the Ukrainian military and government, ignoring the forced subscription of their own citizens … ah whatever … you‘ve got to realize that this is not a game, right?

Also, how does it compute for you, that our side is complicit in the Palestinian genocide and fascist Israel‘s Lebensraum expansion and Apartheid regime, but on the Ukrainian issue suddenly we‘re the good guys or have no involvement or interests? That‘s straight up dumb.