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Yep, women are already enduring ridiculous scrutiny under thinly veiled transphobia they're calling "protection." Imane Khelif is a great example of how this is affecting women's ability to play professional sports.
Wouldn't she still be able to compete in the men's leagues?
If we ignore the fact that she's not transgender: trans women tend to be on oestrogen, and on testosterone blockers. They can't compete with men the same way cis women can't.
Why would you conflate her case with transgenderism?
To answer you: if a man takes 'one' oestrogen and 'one' testosterone blocker, can a cis-woman compete with him? Or do you think it depends?
Transphobes truly are the dumbest people on the planet.
Did you miss the part where she's a woman?
That classification isn't as clear cut as what you might have learned as a child
Oh, have you taken biology in university, too? Don't talk down to me when you didn't even read the entire article. The tests they supposedly used to verify her chromosomes were made up.
Do you believe there are 2 genders and nothing in between?
No, but that has nothing to do with this boxer. If anything, her experience reinforces the headline of the article I posted.
The fact there's more than just 2 genders has nothing to do with this boxer??
Did. You. Read. The. Wiki? She's a woman.
Do you feel the IOC should gender by Wikipedia?
What are you arguing anymore? Asking me ridiculous questions isn't going to make your point any clearer.
Well in one post you seem to admit that gender is a spectrum and in the other you seem to cling to the idea that it's binary (and decided upon by Wikipedia)
Don't you think these are exclusive?
You saying that gender as a spectrum has 'nothing to do with the Imane Khelif case' sounds a lot more ridiculous to me than my questions lol
The only reason you would think the gender spectrum matters here, and that wikipedia enforces a gender binary, is if you massively missread both the article, the wiki and the sources.
I'm done arguing over nothing. You don't even have a point.
As a woman? Probably not.
If she has Y chromosomes, she can
source
Is that really the only criteria? Can a man with de la Chapelle syndrome play women's sports?
As I understand it: he can't. De la Chapelle syndrome implies he has the SRY gene
It seems that 20% of men with de la Chapelle don't have the SRY gene:
So a lot of men can just still compete. Insane that they're not at least being competent and using more sexual characteristics.
Looking at the site now, they do consider DSDs, but I'm not sure how they reliably test for that.
But she does not, do you really not know what born as a woman means?
If she does not, then she can compete in the women's category
So great either way
If you are unable to read, why comment? The whole thread is about how they would not let her compete in the woman's category either because transphobes are idiots.
She could, and she won
Read the article, she got disqualified
She took the fucking gold
I hope one day you get the help you need
Imane was born a woman. She identifies as a woman. No one but a corrupt Russian judge has ever said otherwise. Which is telling.
Ok but sports categories aren't about how one identifies
You do realise the situation with Imane is the exact opposite. People decided she was a man and started to attack her. She's evidence of gender as a social construct.
Luckily we don't listen to those 'people'
Yeah they're about how an arbitrary organisation has decided to, again arbitrarily, split up the messy and complicated mess that is """"biological sex""""".
But how do you propose they arbitrate without 'acting arbitrarily'?
Here's a crazy idea: don't.
There's plenty of competitions without (much) arbitration. Not so much in boxing though
Then it's on you to suggest an non-arbitrary basis of arbitration, since it's so important to you.
By the way, since you care so much about women's boxing, can you name three female boxers without googling? Or is this about something else?
It's important to me to arbitrate non-arbitrarily? No.
And yes, I can
Cool how you ignore everything else except my choice of the word "arbitrary"
You want them not to split up the competition between sexes? A noble idea, but I don't think that's going to turn out as well as you think it will
Did you read my comment or the image I attached, at all?