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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I still strongly disagree. "No, you can't use this at all" is more abusive than "ok, we'll let you use this if you agree to something else". If you didn't agree with the terms, you are no worse off than the other choice. Android is the "only choice" exactly because Apple won't share.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You’re wrong then.

The issue only exists because Google are letting others use their operating system, but are abusing their market position where they own 90% of the market, to force their services which makes other products unable to compete. Samsung for example have their own messaging app, but aren’t allowed to not have Google’s messaging app installed. They have their own calendar app, but Google forced them to have Google calendar.

That is abusing their market position and is textbook anti-competitive behaviour.

Apple made their own product, for themselves and no one else. That’s not abusing anything.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So if Google said that companies can no longer use Android, you would be satisfied?

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Way to miss the point.

If Google stopped letting others use Android, and they could only use AOSP, then they wouldn’t be being anti-competitive because they’re not forcing their services on those using Android. This really isn’t hard to understand.

If you let others use your product and you are the market leader, you can’t abuse your market leader position to be anti-competitive or you’ll get fined.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think Bradley means that Apple should also be forced to open up their OS to other manufacturers?

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Even suggesting that they should be forced to let others use it is absurd.