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Getting started with NextCloud? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 6 days ago by GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I've tried NextCloud before and didn't really love it and I'm now happy with a combination of syncthing and LibreOffice. But my wife wants the full google drive, with sheets, docs etc. without the google, and I think NextCloud is my best option for that.

I'm and experienced *nix admin and already have a Linux server running with both VMs and docker containers and also have a working OpenVPN setup for remote access. But I found the NextCloud setup frustrating. We had a discussion about it (here I think) and determined that this was because NextCloud would rather sell their hosted service, so they don't go out of their way to make the self hosted option easy. I get that and don't hold it against them at all.

But, now that I'm wanting to try it again, I'm looking for pointers to guides for setting up self hosted NextCloud. I've searched, but nothing I found seemed like "the one".

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[–] T4V0@lemmy.pt 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

From what I've gathered about Nextcloud, they seem to be a fast paced rolling release model, which breaks often due to their pace.

Since I didn't want to handhold it constantly, their ~~forks~~ — upstream and fork — drew my attention, OwnCloud and OpenCloud — fork from OwnCloud infinitescale — I went with OpenCloud, due to the smaller footprint required.

I'm currently using systemd container services built from the "full" docker compose version. The services I'm hosting are: OpenCloud server, Caddy as a reverse proxy and automatic cert renew, Keycloak for IDM, Collabora office, Apache Tika full version for text search and extraction and Radicale for contacts and calendar. They also recently updated to support EuroOffice.

While it has less features than NextCloud, it runs fine on a 4-core 8GB VPS, though it needs swap when starting for the first time or updating.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

IIRC, next cloud is a fork from own cloud who went closed source or something. This is almost a decade ago, so take that with a grain of salt, but I remember own cloud back then pulling some corporate crap, and then next cloud came into existence

[–] T4V0@lemmy.pt 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ahh yes, that's correct, I jumbled them together lol.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Welk yeah, not many people know those kinds of details from that long ago lol. I just saw the name one cloud and it all came flashing back