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[Discussion] 10 Fantasy Anime With Better Worldbuilding Than Most Movies (collider.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by mo_lave@reddthat.com to c/anime@ani.social

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Grimgar
Mushoku Tensei
Hunter x Hunter (2011)
Frieren
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Dorohedoro
Dungeon Meshi
Made in Abyss
Ascendance of a Bookworm
One Piece

From the most recent discussion about the best anime worldbuiiding, my choices continue to be Made in Abyss—as in I agree with the article in this case—and Violet Evergarden, but Witch Hat Atelier is getting to be a contender.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not just uncensored loli porn. It got censored in the LN from spy cam footage of his niece in the shower (the main reason why his brother gets so violent).

[Rudeus on Sylphy and Roxy]

The anime and WN are a bit more explicit on that, but even the LN is crystal clear on Rudeus being a paedophile. And I think the folks doing mental gymnastics to claim otherwise also lack basic media literacy, just like I criticised the "third way" ones.

In the meantime I find your "option 3.5" fairly reasonable. It's completely fine to criticise the work for not doing a good job of calling out shitty behaviour, specially in the light of its theme.

Rudeus does mention once that Paul (isekai father) is scum, and that's why they understand each other, but… that's it. In the meantime Paul cheats on Zenith (who's monogamous) with Lilia (who's employed by Paul, so Paul is in a position of power over her), and gets away with it.

I’ve also seen an interesting discussion about how much of the author’s personality is reflected in their works.

It's somewhat clear for me that Magonote doesn't really care too much about social causes, such as the role of women in society. And that he caves in to readers' pressure a bit too easily. But past that, I don't know, really.

[–] NineSwords@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

Rudeus does mention once that Paul (isekai father) is scum, and that’s why they understand each other, but… that’s it. In the meantime Paul cheats on Zenith (who’s monogamous) with Lilia (who’s employed by Paul, so Paul is in a position of power over her), and gets away with it.

That part also gets a bit deeper and more disturbing in the WN (I'm not sure if the LN has cut that part or not):

WN spoiler

In the WN Paul rapes Lilia, a fellow student, in the academy and gets kicked out as a consequence. He then starts a family with Zenith. Lilia, on the other hand, somehow did fall in love with her rapist and seeks him out to insert herself into his family, where she knowingly creates a situation where Paul would cheat with her (leaves the door a slit open while masturbating). Once Zenith finds out, they enter the harem route, with the consequences being that Paul has to sit on the floor in the hallway. I remember this written in a way that made it sound like it was slapstick (haha, look at that pitiful man that has to sit on the floor haha).

I'm not a prude. Rape happens. Cheating happens, and harem routes are an anime staple. The problem I have with Paul's story is the message between the lines. If you rape a girl, she will fall in love with you. If you cheat on your wife or are a home wrecker, you will enter the harem route, where everyone is happy. And all that without any bad consequences for the bad behavior. And this was something I've seen in all aspects of the series throughout. Sure, bad things happen to people, but it's as a consequence of unrelated factors instead of their shitty behavior (i.e. the displacement is bad for Paul, but it's not happening because of his raping and cheating, etc.).

In earlier discussions about this, I've seen the argument that it is just realistic and that bad actions don't necessarily come with bad consequences in reality. And while this is infuriatingly true and can't really be argued against, it still rubs me the wrong way in entertainment, even more so than MC being MC.