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Fuck fossil fuels.

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Certainly not Germany and Poland. Gas cucks. I just want affordable heat. Renewables are cheaper, why are policymakers resisting cheap energy, during an energy price crisis?

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 7 points 6 hours ago

I just want affordable heat.

The monkey's paw just curled. You've been granted a heat-wave, free of charge

[–] lenocolomo@lemmy.ml 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 7 points 10 hours ago

Yeah in Central Europe we don’t have corruption, we have ✨ Lobbyism ✨

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Didn't Germany add shitload of renewable capacity recently?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/16/spanish-households-save-renewables-expansion-electricity-gas-prices-iran-war

In other European countries that also expanded renewables at great speed – such as Germany, which increased its share of wind and solar in power generation from 28% to 45% in the last five years

45% of wind and solar is impressive.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 10 hours ago

Fucking Merz...

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yes, but our current Minister of Economic Affairs is all out to kill it again.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you offer a nuanced point of view if people just want to shit on the system?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 11 hours ago

Sorry, won't happen again.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because renewables, while cheaper, have their share of problems, the first one is that you cannot (yet and completely) store what they produce. Oil in more something like "on demand" in some aspects, people generally expect that when they want hot water they have it, not that they need to plan when to use it.

Another big problem, actually, is that renewables tends to not be available when you need them the most (this derive from the fact that for now we have limited storing capacity): wind turbines have speed limits to not break and solar panels need at least a certain exposure to produce for example.
Other sources could not be available everywhere or be economically justified.

Nobody really like to pay more, it is simply that for now oil and gas are seen as more reliable than renewables, and this offset the fact that they are more expensive.
This will change in the future, no doubts, but the solution is a lot more complex than simply saying "renewable are cheaper".

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago

And your entire argument is laid moot with battery storage. Australia has been showing they can do it at scale and still cheaper than fossil fuels.