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Young women now have 'close to zero' risk of cervical cancer death after HPV jab (www.bbc.co.uk)

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

I was actually disappointed when they did the initial rollout and it wasn't available to boys (see, those without uteruses). Cause, like, that's how vaccines work best. You get it to protect everyone, not just yourself. But I guess that's not how the medical industry is designed.

I was 12 at the time and confused why I couldn't get it. Anyways, I got it the first year it was available to me. Hurt like all hell, especially that last shot.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I had a three-parter shot. The first one and the last one were fine, but the lady who did the second one seemed to have mistaken giving a shot with pitching a baseball. She hit me so fast and so hard it left a goddamn bruise. And I mean, not the kind you might get from an injection site - it was big.

I have no problem getting shots. I was an adult at the time, it's not like she had to do it quickly for a squirming kid. I have no idea why she did it so quickly and violently.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was an uphill battle to get it rolled out for girls initially. There was a lot of fear mongering about how this would turn them all into sluts.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking stupid argument, most people who have HPV don't even know it, how preventing the virus would change anything in their behavior?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago

Because they felt it would give permission for girls to have sex without consequence. And you know how much conservatives love for there to be punishments for girls and women having sex.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm aware that humans are prone to flights of fancy. Doesn't change the fact that I'm disappointed that a science field doesn't listen to science when making decisions.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they needed to do more testing and such before rolling it out for boys and men. Because they could prove the cervical cancer link more easily and they could get it approved for girls first.

It's disappointing, but it's available now.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would love to believe it was some decision making tree, comparing number needed to treat vs number needed to harm, but the most likely explanation is that there was funding for cervical cancer that this worked off of, and that was used to get the first human test subjects (all women, cause men don't have cervixes, silly. Just ignore all the men with cervixes).

Never mind that 90% of drugs only go through testing with just men cause "women are just men with different hormones patterns and more statistical noise". But the reverse logic is clearly not respected, we have to test this drug on men before we can approve it for them. Ah patriarchy, if it isn't you, it's capitalism.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Usually patriarchy and capitalism team up to ignore women's health issues honestly. I'm sorry this one got caught and they prioritized girls and women first.

Because of HPV’s causal association with cervical cancer, the original vaccine trials focused on females, and consequently, the vaccine was approved for females aged nine to 26 years. This approach was perfectly reasonable, given what was known at the time. Unfortunately, this approval also fit within an existing cultural narrative that HPV was a woman’s problem. We have come to refer to this overidentification of HPV with females, and its subsequent impact on primary prevention efforts, as the “feminization of HPV.” The process of feminization occurs when an issue is socially constructed as focused on females,3 which can impact how issues are perceived by the public and addressed by the government and other organizations.

The feminization process was, in some sense, the result of an accidental synergy between the known science and our long history of sexism. The decision to license the vaccine only for females was a “perfect storm” of science, politics, economics, and socially constructed beliefs regarding gender roles. In the forthcoming shift from the quadrivalent to the nonavalent vaccine that will undoubtedly involve confusion regarding guidelines, dosage, clinical practice behavior, and health messages, new approaches could correct gender disparities in vaccine delivery. We call for a three-part strategy to address the feminization of HPV, which we hope will foster equity in the prevention of HPV-related diseases.

Even back in 2016 there was a push to correct this.