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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m aware. Browsers have been in phones long before smartphones.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I hate to break it to you but smart phones have been around since before the Web.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WAP/WML browsers, not web browsers.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just googled to see if I was misremembering because I definitely browsed the regular web on my Nokia N73. It also came out in 2006, and back in the day it was not called a smartphone.

I would say your statement is factually incorrect.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ll say I’m correct on a technicality. 2006 is not “long before smartphones” only a year or so. The N73 is a sort of proto-smartphone, even if the term wasn’t in use yet.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m really curious what other metric there is for a smart phone than “accessing the web” and/or “downloading apps”. Thats the barebones definition of smart TVs or any other appliance or equipment, why are phones somehow different?

Why are people trying to define it so specifically? So they can feel better about themselves?

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The point where it becomes a general-purpose computing device, I think. Programmability is generally what makes it “smart”, i.e. not having the limitation of predefined “features” which make it a feature phone.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn’t a feature phone a “dumb phone”? A phone meant for calling and texting, and that’s it. So yeah, apps and a browser would instantly make it a smart phone.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It’s all relative but more or less yes.

Dumb phone has no software features (e.g. Nokia 5110 or so — unless you count the snake game), feature phone has software features but limited to the ones that come with the phone (rarely installable at all), smart phone has actual software aka “apps”