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Do you think the Russo-Ukrainian war is more likely to end with a trump win in 2024 rather than a Biden win? (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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It seems like there's no way that Biden can make any negotiation with Russia seem like a win to his base so if he wins it's almost an automatic 4 more years of war. But if Trump wins he could make most of the concessions that Russia wants and still sell it as "the best deal" to his fans. Is a trump win the best hope for shortening war?

Disclaimer: I would never vote for trump, I also won't vote for Biden, I'm also in a state that always goes one way so it doesn't matter at all.

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Aside from the part where he said he’d end it and that he doesn’t really like NATO, there’s another big reason I think Trump will end the war: Zelenskyy didn’t give him the dirt on Biden he asked for, and it got him impeached.

Plus of course this is Biden’s war. He started it in 2014 as VP and it’s no coincidence that it blew back up after he became president.

i.e. aside from the politics of it, ending the war would also just be petty revenge for Trump.

Maybe that’s hopium (for the war to end) on my part, but I do think it tracks with Trump’s personality.

[–] sharkfucker420@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How did Biden start the annexation of Crimea? I'm assuming that's what you are referring to when you mention 2014.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably referencing US support for the Euromaidan coup which is what led to crimea breaking away from Ukraine in the first place. Idk how involved Biden was in that personally.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Biden was vice president at the time, played a role in Euromaidan shenanigans alongside Victoria Nuland, and his son Hunter sat on the board of directors of Ukrainian Gas Company Burisma

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Good info, thanks

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except Trump doesn't have that kind of power.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The president has the power to not send more money to Ukraine. Trump will call Zelenskyy and say “we won’t be supporting you anymore, go negotiate”. The US has by far been the biggest donor to Ukraine so Ukraine would be in a tough position without that support. Worst case Ukraine tries to hold out but without US support Russia will mop them up, which is what Russia has been waiting for.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

The president has the power to not send more money to Ukraine

He can only do that if there is anyone else in the government that wants to do that. Otherwise he can probably be convinced not to.