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X11 vs Wayland (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 13 hours ago by pixeldaemon@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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What's the difference for a real user between using X11 or Wayland nowdays? I haven't found anything useful on the internet, so I'm asking you. Internet articles on the topic (and about WMs too) seem to be advertising slop since they explain anything but the real things. Also, if anyone used the XLibre fork, I would love to hear about your experience with it.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Wayland breaks everything is right in the title. Did you even look into the link before you accuse ME of propaganda? I did not poison the well and left my opinion out. The article IS anti Wayland, and that is not my opinion and does not reflect my opinion. You should stop right there.

You're just anti-X11.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You just attack me personally the whole time with wrong accusations, instead bringing arguments for or against Wayland and X11.

Edit: You call me doing propaganda, you call me poisoning the opinions of others, you call me anti X11. Just because I call the article Anti Wayland. That's it, that is your basis. Even though I provided that link to have a different view in the mix our discussions too. I ask you, would you not consider the article I linked being Anti Wayland? Strange because it ONLY speaks about its problems (some not even true anymore), but not about its strengths. Also you call me anti-X11 (to me personally), but you say its propaganda speech if I say Anti Wayland (about the article).

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

You just attack me personally the whole time with wrong accusations, instead bringing arguments for or against Wayland and X11.

I very clearly attacked your argument (not you) as "Poisoning the Well". Sounds like you're not familiar with logical fallacies, I highly recommend reading up on them.

you call me anti X11

Yes - that was me doing to you what you did to the author to show by example. You took that as an insult which is why I say calling the author of that article "anti-wayland" is well-poisoning. You've set the tone that the article is not to be taken seriously because of a perceived bias on the part of the author. You "besmirched" their reputation to, by association, attack the argument. This is practically the definition of Poisoning the Well.

Just because I call the article Anti Wayland. That’s it, that is your basis.

Yes - that was the fallacy. The "well-poisoning" if you will. If you simply said "Here is an article that points out some of the problems with Wayland" or something to that effect I wouldn't have taken any issue.