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Proton alternatives? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 20 hours ago by ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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So it's on this polemic stuff right? So I wanted to ask for some alternatives for both the VPN and email. Any other recomendations are also welcome! And I do understand I might need to start paying for a service. Thanks a lot!

Also, the only thing I don't know much about is me using rethink dns it seems safe ig, but yea, also uhh. I also use proton through wireguard so ideally it should include that or openvpn or just really good compatibility for all devices.

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[–] ropatrick@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Am I right in understanding that if you move to Session, Element, SimpleX etc., you can still only message people on those particular apps? So if you (say) move to Session and only 5 of your 300 contacts are on it, you can only message those 5 people and have to use WhatsApp for the other 295, because let's face it, they are probably on that?

I ask because I see so many people say "I moved to X app", but surely it's more complicated than that if the critical mass are still on the likes of WhatsApp?

It can't be as simple as just moving to another app, surely?

[–] liverstealer@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I think I am understanding you, yes, you can only message those who have moved or download those apps to speak with you.

For me, it was that simple. In my situation, I asked my friends at the time to download Signal -- they didnt even want to download that. Only the closest to me ended up doing that. It turns out I am no longer friends with anyone who wasn't using whatever I was using, so I have no need to go back to that. I never will even if I am asked. I'd rather even email lol.

So, anways I'm not saying necessarily there is any correlation between a true friend and someone who does not move apps with you. But I am also not not saying that.

[–] ropatrick@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol, what I'm hearing is that unless all my family and friends move to a better messaging app, they are dead to me.

Seems legit.

Edit: How many livers have you stolen?

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Ya I see this advice often. "If they do that change apps then just stop talking to them". They don't even realize they sound like the crazy one constantly asking people to change apps.

I use Signal the most simply because that's the app I can get most people to actually install that is the safest. And I still have friends that refuse to use it and will only message me on Discord. I'm not going to drop my friends simply because I care about privacy and they don't.