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[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 19 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm reminded of one of Roy Cohn's monologues in Angels in America.

Your problem is that you are hung up on words, on labels: "gay", "homosexual", "lesbian." You think they tell you who a person sleeps with, but they don't tell you that. Like all labels, they refer to one thing and one thing only: Where does a person so identified fit in the food chain? In the pecking order. Not ideology or sexual taste, but something much simpler: clout. Who owes me favors. Not who I fuck or who fucks me, but who will pick up the phone when I call. To someone who doesn't understand this, homosexual is what I am because I sleep with men, but this is wrong. Homosexuals are not men who sleep with other men. Homosexuals are men who, in 15 years of trying, can't get a pissant anti-discrimination bill through City Council. They are men who know nobody, and who nobody knows.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

The real Roy Cohen didn't consider himself gay, he just liked to sexually dominate young blond men. That was a sign of his masculinity.

It should be noted that when he mentored Donald Trump and Roger Stone, they were both young blonde men.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Angels in America is a very good play that, I think, has only gotten better over time.

HBO produced it as a TV miniseries with Al Pacino playing Roy Cohn back in 2003. There's also a 2017 revival with Nathan Lane in the role. Either are 100% worth checking out.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

I haven't seen the play, but the HBO production was INCREDIBLE.

[–] square@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Thanks for the recommend, I'm looking forward to watching it. I don't know how I missed this, it was back when I still assumed everything HBO produced was good.